What the hell is post-dubstep?

[wilson]

Kind of a stupid name considering Dubstep is still (in the wider music world) a relativly new genre.

Almost ten years now.

Fairly new in that context I'd say. Early 00's it was very much underground.

[the wiggle baron]

Anyone getting bent out of shape either way over something as petty as this is an idiot imo. The person with the epic long post a few posts back basically said it all for me. I have no idea why people think its such a sin to use terms like this. Like, can you (anyone...) think of a better way of describing, say, james blake & airhead - lock in the lion? Sure you could, but is it going to be any better than 'post-dubstep'?

[cosmic_surgeon]

Kind of a stupid name considering Dubstep is still (in the wider music world) a relativly new genre.

Almost ten years now.

Fairly new in that context I'd say. Early 00's it was very much underground.

I'm not sure what you mean here mate. It doesn't only begin to age the moment it gets attention!

[Brian Oblivion]

Post-dubstep is just an invented genre tag like any other. It has no real basis in reality, it merely serves to allow the categorisation of various artists who may exist in the same kind of space. The space that post-dubstep appears to occupy is rather large and, like future garage, this means it isn't necessarily very successful in those aims. However, in general terms it seeks to define (and place into a neat little box) the music of various producers who would probably associate themselves - or have at least been associated in the past - with the dubstep scene, but whose current productions don't really bear the hallmarks of dubstep. The obvious examples I guess would be Blake and Mount Kimbie, amongst others. But it also seems to be a pigeonhole for anything that falls under 140bpm but retains some of the dubstep ethos.

I guess it's comes about because those producers are making tunes that strictly speaking fall under different genre tags, but people want to be able to lump the entire artist under one tag.

All in all, a pretty useless genre tag since hardly any of the music contained within it sounds alike (and because no one can agree on what it means), but it can come in handy occasionally. The mention of post-punk earlier in the thread is to my mind the best analogy I've heard for it.

I think youve sort of missed the point of the term a little. The prefix 'post...' is an accepted term when talking about art of any kind and has been for a long time. The reason the prefix is used, evident in this case as you have pointed out, is because what often comes as a progression of a movement is fractured into a lot of different paths that dont have a central theme with which to give them their own genre name, thats the point of using a term like post dubstep, it in itself alludes to the fact that the group of artists you are talking about are related by their direct influences and roots rather than what it is theyre producing.

It does sound a bit poncey, I can understand that, but the alternative is 'one of those blokes who makes sort of electronic underground music yeah, and its sort of got a bit of a dubstep vibe in it but its branching off somewhere new with it thats slightly unique and is still evolving', which is an even more rubbish tag for a group of artists, so faced with the choice 'post dubstep', its 2 words and it says it all, just got to live with it really.

Just dont let yourself get caught talking about 'post dubstep' at a party in shoreditch while wearing a cardigan and drinking a glass of wine, that could be hara kiri territory.

[-[2]DAY_-]

i didn't read the thread (im an asshole i know), and i'm not one to smack subgenres all over stuff ..
but "'post'-anything" is a legit term to kind of say, "well, this isn't xyz per se, but it's relevant to note that it was created in a landscape that took form AFTER xyz occurred/became prominent"

so for instance, hip hop in the post-dubstep world might sound different because a lot of people are jumping on the slower 70/140 bpm tip, wether they're wobbling or just knocking 808s around, and in other ways the sound design and bassline emphasis is coming out across all tempos in pop and hip hop.... just one brief example


new ludacris:

[Wildcard]

i didn't read the thread (im an asshole i know), and i'm not one to smack subgenres all over stuff ..
but "'post'-anything" is a legit term to kind of say, "well, this isn't xyz per se, but it's relevant to note that it was created in a landscape that took form AFTER xyz occurred/became prominent"

so for instance, hip hop in the post-dubstep world might sound different because a lot of people are jumping on the slower 70/140 bpm tip, wether they're wobbling or just knocking 808s around, and in other ways the sound design and bassline emphasis is coming out across all tempos in pop and hip hop.... just one brief example


new ludacris:

Im not sure if im following...

[-[2]DAY_-]

Anyone getting bent out of shape either way over something as petty as this is an idiot imo. The person with the epic long post a few posts back basically said it all for me. I have no idea why people think its such a sin to use terms like this. Like, can you (anyone...) think of a better way of describing, say, james blake & airhead - lock in the lion? Sure you could, but is it going to be any better than 'post-dubstep'?

james blake is a better example than ludacris, forgive me I'm american

i thought of it not so much as a genre type word, than as an adjective that is specific to chronology.

[Brian Oblivion]

Anyone getting bent out of shape either way over something as petty as this is an idiot imo. The person with the epic long post a few posts back basically said it all for me. I have no idea why people think its such a sin to use terms like this. Like, can you (anyone...) think of a better way of describing, say, james blake & airhead - lock in the lion? Sure you could, but is it going to be any better than 'post-dubstep'?

james blake is a better example than ludacris, forgive me I'm american

i thought of it not so much as a genre type word, than as an adjective that is specific to chronology.

I think it works as both, and is usually meant more in the terms of chronology but acknowledging at the same time that what you are talking about is in some way related to Dubstep, you wouldnt talk about the post dubstep era in Chinese politics for example because dubstep isnt really an important factor in that area.

[-[2]DAY_-]

lol yes, good point. Context! i think its gonna be a valid term soon in lots of areas of music.... britney spears' "hold it against me" , def. not dubstep, but very relevant that it was created after dubstep.

[jam1]

For defining a movement, post-dubstep is apt. As a genre name it's a bit silly.

[dr_zoidberg]

This is Post-Dubstep
Soundcloud

[topmo3]

lol good exhume