ketamine wrote:You guys don't scare me I went through this in highschool. Constantly being bashed for following Bone Thugs n Harmony and not Wu. Fuck Wu. Their production sucked, and other than Method & ODB none of them could write SONGS. Just babbling on, like their at an underground MC contest, stringing pointless rhymes together (yes, they can rhyme words) but wtf are they talking about? And stay on beat? You can tell they (back in the 90s) wrote their rhymes first then tried to find beats to rap them to, which led to them cramming way too many words together and that shit irritates me. Wu Tang are great street corner MCs. And that's fine, but I don't listen to street corner rappers. I like polished, mixed, well written, mastered, crispy clean rap. Like, BTNH back then, and Drake now. Wu is hip hop hype and respect and everybody rides them because everybody rides them. Like Jay Z. He sucks too. Cant rap anymore. Rhymes blow. I'm not afraid to say it. But hip hop still on his wack @ss.
I stand by what I said and it was not born of ignorance.
ur opinions are wack
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:46 pm
by dickman69
ketamine wrote:Their production sucked, and other than Method & ODB none of them could write SONGS.
Their production definitely did not suck
and have you actually listened to any Ghostface or Raekwon??? Probably 2 of the best story telling MCs I've ever heard, what the fuck are you on
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:50 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:51 pm
by dreamizm
I like Drake's content and his flow most of the time. His beats r hard as well.
Hating on him for his music is one thing but hating cos he is "feminine" or bringing something different to the game is dumb. Common already made himself look bitter and its only makin YMCMB stronger. I been sick of the masculine bravado rap thing since about 2001.
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:56 pm
by flyingointment
The first Cuban Linx is better than anything Drake has done, is doing and will ever do.
Some of you need to get off the fuckin' drugs.
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:59 pm
by fassyman
svpreme wrote:The first Cuban Linx is better than anything Drake has done, is doing and will ever do.
Some of you need to get off the fuckin' drugs.
fo real, drake is poo pants idst
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:12 pm
by dreamizm
ketamine wrote:You guys don't scare me I went through this in highschool. Constantly being bashed for following Bone Thugs n Harmony and not Wu. Fuck Wu. Their production sucked, and other than Method & ODB none of them could write SONGS. Just babbling on, like their at an underground MC contest, stringing pointless rhymes together (yes, they can rhyme words) but wtf are they talking about? And stay on beat? You can tell they (back in the 90s) wrote their rhymes first then tried to find beats to rap them to, which led to them cramming way too many words together and that shit irritates me. Wu Tang are great street corner MCs. And that's fine, but I don't listen to street corner rappers. I like polished, mixed, well written, mastered, crispy clean rap. Like, BTNH back then, and Drake now. Wu is hip hop hype and respect and everybody rides them because everybody rides them. Like Jay Z. He sucks too. Cant rap anymore. Rhymes blow. I'm not afraid to say it. But hip hop still on his wack @ss.
You don't like hip-hop. You like R'n'b.
Comparing Bone Thugs with Wu is like comparing a smoothie with a steak.
RZAs beats
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:29 pm
by antipode
thread is now about RZAs beats and how awesome they are.
I agree with you about Jay-Z though..
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:35 pm
by pikeymobile
mindless babbling rite? i spose he shud start listenin to more bone thugs n harmony
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:37 pm
by cmgoodman1226
dreamizm wrote:I like Drake's content and his flow most of the time. His beats r hard as well.
Hating on him for his music is one thing but hating cos he is "feminine" or bringing something different to the game is dumb. Common already made himself look bitter and its only makin YMCMB stronger. I been sick of the masculine bravado rap thing since about 2001.
Drake has brought absolutely NOTHING new to "the game". If you wunna hear smooth sounding raps not talking about gangster shit then listen to CL, who's only been around for over 20 years...
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:55 pm
by pikeymobile
cmgoodman1226 wrote:
dreamizm wrote:I like Drake's content and his flow most of the time. His beats r hard as well.
Hating on him for his music is one thing but hating cos he is "feminine" or bringing something different to the game is dumb. Common already made himself look bitter and its only makin YMCMB stronger. I been sick of the masculine bravado rap thing since about 2001.
Drake has brought absolutely NOTHING new to "the game". If you wunna hear smooth sounding raps not talking about gangster shit then listen to CL, who's only been around for over 20 years...
this is a ridiculous argument tho
almost all of these dungeon artists have bought nothing new or different to the scene yet they're lauded as the saviours of dubstep
same with all these producers jumping on house
however, it doesnt mean the music is bad, good music is good regardless of whether it is new or innovative
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:02 pm
by dickman69
He's just saying that no one's hating on Drake for "bringing something different to the game"
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:16 pm
by cmgoodman1226
pikeymobile wrote:
cmgoodman1226 wrote:
dreamizm wrote:I like Drake's content and his flow most of the time. His beats r hard as well.
Hating on him for his music is one thing but hating cos he is "feminine" or bringing something different to the game is dumb. Common already made himself look bitter and its only makin YMCMB stronger. I been sick of the masculine bravado rap thing since about 2001.
Drake has brought absolutely NOTHING new to "the game". If you wunna hear smooth sounding raps not talking about gangster shit then listen to CL, who's only been around for over 20 years...
this is a ridiculous argument tho
almost all of these dungeon artists have bought nothing new or different to the scene yet they're lauded as the saviours of dubstep
same with all these producers jumping on house
however, it doesnt mean the music is bad, good music is good regardless of whether it is new or innovative
I never said that. I was just refuting that he's brought anything at all to the game. Don't get me wrong; I see why people like him. A lot of his tracks are catchy, and I get that. That being said, his lines are weak, his flow reminds me of an autistic child, and his voice is annoying. The Pharcyde, a tribe called quest, de la soul, pete rock and CL Smooth-> NONE of these guys ever acted like gangsters or rapped about gangster shit, but they had a style that was their own. Drake still comes with that same old "look at me I'm rich and I rap good" style. He's defenitly better than a lot of the guys that are being hyped up right now, but that's like saying I'm better at swimming than any newborn I've ever met.
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:27 pm
by ketamine
pikeymobile wrote:
mindless babbling rite? i spose he shud start listenin to more bone thugs n harmony
Waaaahhhh i'm angry because i'm 40 years old & can't get a better record deal so i'm going to write a bitter rhyme incoroprating all the labels who told me my music sucks and threw away my crappy demos...
When someone with talent, cries about the industry, THIS IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE: (i.e. An actual marketable song)
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:30 pm
by dickman69
Labels is from Liquid Swords, which was released on Geffen, and he wasn't near 40 years old when he wrote that...
you're sounding like a complete idiot, with no knowledge of hip hop whatsoever
have you even heard Liquid Swords? Arguably the greatest album of all time?
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:33 pm
by cmgoodman1226
ketamine wrote:
pikeymobile wrote:
mindless babbling rite? i spose he shud start listenin to more bone thugs n harmony
Waaaahhhh i'm angry because i'm 40 years old & can't get a better record deal so i'm going to write a bitter rhyme incoroprating all the labels who told me my music sucks and threw away my crappy demos...
When true thugs cry, THIS IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE: (i.e. An actual marketable song)
When is the last time the bone thugs did ANYTHING of any relavence? I have the utmost respect for them and I've always loved their style, but for real? They're target crowd is highschool suburban white kids going through an identity crisis. Wu-tang, their crowd is basically anybody who likes hiphop. Reguardless of whether or not you like it, they PIONEERED that gambino style that so many try to copy and emulate.
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:35 pm
by ketamine
rayman612 wrote:Labels is from Liquid Swords, which was released on Geffen, and he wasn't near 40 years old when he wrote that...
you're sounding like a complete idiot, with no knowledge of hip hop whatsoever
have you even heard Liquid Swords? Arguably the greatest album of all time?
Yes. It was forced down my throat by all my friends in HighSchool. Of course I heard it. I grew up in Baltimore. Wu Tang were hailed as Gods during my school years. I stand by my opinion. I didn't like them then, and I don't like them now. However, I think my opinion on their "sound" is being taken as disrespect to the Group itself. I like the Wu as a "thing" in HipHop, but when you start comparing somebody like Drake to Ghostface Killa, I can't take it. It brings me back to my arguments in HS about Bone/Wu. It's just a "taste" thing, nobody's right or wrong. But its funny how old washed up rappers always mad at the new ones. Drake doesn't suck, that's why he's on the radio right now. GZA finally write a marketable song, he might get on the radio too.
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:39 pm
by faultier
ketamine wrote:Drake doesn't suck, that's why he's on the radio right now. GZA finally write a marketable song, he might get on the radio too
yeah I reckon GZA should deffo ask Justin Bieber to ghostwrite something marketable for him so he can get on the radio too
Re: DMX on Drake lol
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:39 pm
by dreamizm
cmgoodman1226 wrote:
pikeymobile wrote:
cmgoodman1226 wrote:
dreamizm wrote:I like Drake's content and his flow most of the time. His beats r hard as well.
Hating on him for his music is one thing but hating cos he is "feminine" or bringing something different to the game is dumb. Common already made himself look bitter and its only makin YMCMB stronger. I been sick of the masculine bravado rap thing since about 2001.
Drake has brought absolutely NOTHING new to "the game". If you wunna hear smooth sounding raps not talking about gangster shit then listen to CL, who's only been around for over 20 years...
this is a ridiculous argument tho
almost all of these dungeon artists have bought nothing new or different to the scene yet they're lauded as the saviours of dubstep
same with all these producers jumping on house
however, it doesnt mean the music is bad, good music is good regardless of whether it is new or innovative
I never said that. I was just refuting that he's brought anything at all to the game. Don't get me wrong; I see why people like him. A lot of his tracks are catchy, and I get that. That being said, his lines are weak, his flow reminds me of an autistic child, and his voice is annoying. The Pharcyde, a tribe called quest, de la soul, pete rock and CL Smooth-> NONE of these guys ever acted like gangsters or rapped about gangster shit, but they had a style that was their own. Drake still comes with that same old "look at me I'm rich and I rap good" style. He's defenitly better than a lot of the guys that are being hyped up right now, but that's like saying I'm better at swimming than any newborn I've ever met.
How is the content of Marvin's Room anything like CL?
