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d-T-r wrote:talking bout' entropy right?

No.

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dtr, I'm not persecuting you or anything, I just like to argue and get to the root of an issue. So if I can pin you down exactly I can see if it has any basis in fact. But it's hard to figure out what your saying because it kinda seems like you're just throwing random pseudo-relevant words around.

as for how they interact, i think i kind of said it earlier in that Our physical bodies are the receivers of consciousness. Like how a radio tunes in to a frequency for playback. We're currently tuned in to 'third-dimension Fm' " bringing you the finest photons/colours within your viewable spectrum and the finest frequencies our ears can hear

No-one seems to have adressed the most fundamental problem with what you have stated: CAUSALITY. The universe is a causally-closed system. So unless you are willing to violate this fundamental notion, then you are saying that the transmit and receive process is within the universe.

You say:

the thing that puts dmt in a different league is that are lot of people now are starting to explore the potential links it has to our perception of the Electro-magnetic spectrum. Death i think could essentially be a 'tuning' in to a different frequency, beyond the physical third dimensional frequencies of matter.'

So if this transmission of consciousness between material/immaterial is somewhere on the EMS, then it can be easily detected, full stop. If it is not transmitted via a signal on the EMS then the brain cannot sense it.

Bringer wrote:dtr, I'm not persecuting you or anything, I just like to argue and get to the root of an issue. So if I can pin you down exactly I can see if it has any basis in fact. But it's hard to figure out what your saying because it kinda seems like you're just throwing random pseudo-relevant words around.

as for how they interact, i think i kind of said it earlier in that Our physical bodies are the receivers of consciousness. Like how a radio tunes in to a frequency for playback. We're currently tuned in to 'third-dimension Fm' " bringing you the finest photons/colours within your viewable spectrum and the finest frequencies our ears can hear

No-one seems to have adressed the most fundamental problem with what you have stated: CAUSALITY. The universe is a causally-closed system. So unless you are willing to violate this fundamental notion, then you are saying that the transmit and receive process is within the universe.

Always good to get to the root.Opposition always helps us test & reevaluate our opinions and thoughts . I Said before too, maybe what i say sometimes seems 'pseudo-relevant' as you put it, as i don't have the full scientific vocab to explain it. This doesn't negate some of the first hand 'experiences' i've had though. My 'trouble' is being mostly right brain orientated and attempting to translate it to left. Feel free to pin anything down, just don't always assume that everything you have already pinned for yourself is actually pinned at all.

I don't think any element of Causality has really been violated either. If you explain that part further i'll try and give a better response to it.

Bringer wrote: You say:

the thing that puts dmt in a different league is that are lot of people now are starting to explore the potential links it has to our perception of the Electro-magnetic spectrum. Death i think could essentially be a 'tuning' in to a different frequency, beyond the physical third dimensional frequencies of matter.'

So if this transmission of consciousness between material/immaterial is somewhere on the EMS, then it can be easily detected, full stop. If it is not transmitted via a signal on the EMS then the brain cannot sense it.

Yes i would imagine it could be easily detected.I Also have a hunch that a change would be detectable on EKG waves (Electrocardiography) as our hearts give of the biggest electromagnetic field in our body. Some people can actually see their electro magnetic field when on/after this stuff. I would think that when on this stuff, our electromagnetic field would probably expand even further than it's regualr reach and the 'strength' behind it would be huge.

I can see my own electromagnetic field at night time when in bed and i got this growing 'ability' pretty much straight after i did dmt for the first time. It moves parallel to my own hands and head and it's not static at all yet clearly fixed to me but is not physical.. A trip in December magnified my perception to see it even more and i still see it most nights when completely not under the influence of anything. I'll explain it's visual appearance in more detail another time

I would actually be more than happy to get involved with actual scientific testing/measuring of it as i think there's a lotttttttt to be explored involving our electromagnetic field and how it interacts with the rest of the field and our own consciousness and Nervous system.Maybe i'll look into it. Again, there's only a limited amount to how far i can elaborate and actually makes sense as most of what i think&feel i've learnt is mostly anchored in the right intuitive-brain .

Unfortunately , the legality status of dmt and Ayawaska,psilocybin,iboga etc etc is an issue. so any genuine research and funding of it's effect is kind of limited despite it being one of the newest potentially interesting areas of brain, Neuro-science and the EMS. Not to mention the healing properties the rest have been shown to display.

The reason i spoke of death in the first place was because in a psilocybin & caapi trip, i pretty much went back through my own 'timeline' and into the space/void before we arrive in physical form. It was a painful ego+destroying experience to be 'unnaturally'' torn out of the physical and human ego construct to arrive/return there, but then it gave me a first hand experience of why it is it's like this....I could feel every single contributing reason for choosing to incarnate where and when i did. And i think we all do this, we just naturally have no memory of it, because it's from the space before physical birth.hence why it's such an ineffable thing to reference because notions of time and identity are completely different in this space.

Maybe i'll have more to share after the next time i navigate. you're welcome to condescend it all away as a hallucination but that's why i mentioned the involvement of the e.m.s stuff.