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wub wrote:

Johnlenham wrote:the same as Sasha what the fack!?

Sasha was the biggest DJ in the world for a long time during the 90s/00s. Him and Digweed were massive on both sides of the Atlantic, they had their Delta Heavy Tour, Twilo residency, prog house was straddling the world like a sentient being shitting 10min long drum patterns all over the place...he was commerically viable, did the music for the first Wipeout game, remixes of chart/pop artists...

...in short, that kind of legacy would equate to some serious bank.

Yeah I meant how is judge jules on par with him and digweed money wise, Im well aware of why them two have so much money and they both still play a good set!

I always wonder who all these millions of people are who listen to trance or whatever judge jules and the like play, i literally dont think i've ever met anyone who still listens to that shit

southstar wrote:I always wonder who all these millions of people are who listen to trance or whatever judge jules and the like play, i literally dont think i've ever met anyone who still listens to that shit

That should tell you at the very least that you hang out in a semi descent crowd.

europe

Johnlenham wrote:Yeah I meant how is judge jules on par with him

Long running Radio1 show + long running Ibiza residency w/ Judgement Sundays...probably has a gig swap system in place for any of the big names he books at Judgement Sundays to keep him in international work, licensing royalties for his stuff as Angelic/Hi-Gate...


...still doesn't excuse this shit though;



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Damn... that is a very depressing list

CRAP #30: Afrojack Net Worth – $2 million
CRAP #29: Markus Schulz Net Worth – $2 million
CRAP #28: Darude Net Worth – $2.5 million
SOME DECENT TRACKS IN HIS EARLY PRODUCTIONS, NOW COMMERCIAL CRAP #27: Kaskade Net Worth – $3 million
CRAP #26: Martin Solveig Net Worth – $3 million
CRAP #25: Eric Prydz Net Worth – $4 million
CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP #24: Swedish House Mafia Net Worth – $4 million each
CRAP #23: Gareth Emery Net Worth – $5 million
CRAP #22: Avicii Net Worth – $6 million
WORST MUSIC EVER #21: Skrillex Net Worth – $8 million
CRAP #20: ATB aka Andre Tanneberger – $8 million
CRAP #19: Calvin Harris Net Worth – $10 million
CRAP #18: Deadmau5 Net Worth – $12 million
CRAP CRAP CRAP #17: Benny Benassi Net Worth – $14 million
BRILLIANT DJ, TERRIBLE CRAPPY OVERRATED PRODUCER #16: Carl Cox Net Worth – $15 million
WAY TOO COMMERCIAL, JACK DANGERS FTW: The Chemical Brothers Net Worth – $15 million
CRAP #14: Ferry Corsten Net Worth – $18 million
CRAP #13: Steve Aoki Net Worth – $20 million
MOST OVERRATED ELECTRONIC DJ/PRODUCER EVER #12: Fatboy Slim Net Worth – $22 million
CRAP #11: David Guetta Net Worth – $25 million
OVERRATED COMMERCIAL CLAP, SOME DECENT OLDSKOOL TRACKS TOUGH #10: Moby Net Worth $28 million
GOOD UNTIL 2007 #9: Daft Punk Net Worth – $30 million each
CRAP: Pete Tong Net Worth – $30 million
CRAP ?? #7: Judge Jules Net Worth – $40 million
GOOD BUT OVERRATED #6: Sasha (DJ) Net Worth – $40 million
CRAP #5: Armin Van Buuren Net Worth – $40 million
EXCELLENT DJ, TERRIBLE PRODUCER #4: John Digweed Net Worth – $45 million
CRAP #3: Paul van Dyk Net Worth – $50 million
OVERRATED #2: Paul Oakenfold Net Worth – $55 million
CRAP #1: DJ Tiesto Net Worth – $65 million


i don't want to live in this planet anymore

southstar wrote:I always wonder who all these millions of people are who listen to trance or whatever judge jules and the like play, i literally dont think i've ever met anyone who still listens to that shit

Its just generic "dance music" to the majority of people who stream to the clubs on the weekends. The same kind of people who would roll their eyes at you if you mentioned any electronic music by name--they don't know they're listening to "Trance" per-se, they're just in the clubs (NY/Miami/LA/Ibiza, etc) trying to hook up or get hammered... Jersey Shore style...

Call me a chinstroker but I haven't listened to or purposely avoid every single artist on this list except Daft Punk...

TBH, you're missing out on some great stuff from the first few Chemical Bros and Fatboy Slim albums.

ketamine wrote:

southstar wrote:I always wonder who all these millions of people are who listen to trance or whatever judge jules and the like play, i literally dont think i've ever met anyone who still listens to that shit

Its just generic "dance music" to the majority of people who stream to the clubs on the weekends. The same kind of people who would roll their eyes at you if you mentioned any electronic music by name--they don't know they're listening to "Trance" per-se, they're just in the clubs (NY/Miami/LA/Ibiza, etc) trying to hook up or get hammered... Jersey Shore style...

Exactly. The crowd came to dance, they didn't come to expand their artistic horizons.

The interesting part for me is the less the crowds care about what the DJ plays, the more the DJ can get paid. It's not like people on holiday in Ibiza are going to stay away from the superclubs due to "safe" lineups because the music is actually secondary to the experience - it's the whole package of being on holiday with their mates, taking pills, watching GoGo Dancers and copping off with strangers on the beach that pulls the punters in, not the prospect of hearing 9PM (Til I Come) or Silence for the fourteen millionth time. You could get away with putting a MoS mixtape on in Manumission or Space most of the time and nobody would care or notice. The marketing job they've managed is absolutely incredible.

Still, the masses lap it up.. it's no different to Britney Spears or Jessie J clearing more bank than Björk or Janelle Monae really. Drag your product down to the lowest common denominator and you might piss off the purists, but you'll be too busy swimming in cash, coke and hookers to give a flying fuck about what a bunch of broke nerds think.

funny thing is that people like avicii and afrojack and those swedish guys barely sell 100 mp3s of their shit
do you really think 12 years old bro fans as well those new generations who are heavily into download 96 kbps yt tracks for shitty laptop speakers buy owsla/mau5trap/type any commercial digital label nonsense?
we all know they make money only with unreal tour schedules..

prydz is a g

magma wrote:

ketamine wrote:

southstar wrote:I always wonder who all these millions of people are who listen to trance or whatever judge jules and the like play, i literally dont think i've ever met anyone who still listens to that shit

Its just generic "dance music" to the majority of people who stream to the clubs on the weekends. The same kind of people who would roll their eyes at you if you mentioned any electronic music by name--they don't know they're listening to "Trance" per-se, they're just in the clubs (NY/Miami/LA/Ibiza, etc) trying to hook up or get hammered... Jersey Shore style...

Exactly. The crowd came to dance, they didn't come to expand their artistic horizons.

The interesting part for me is the less the crowds care about what the DJ plays, the more the DJ can get paid. It's not like people on holiday in Ibiza are going to stay away from the superclubs due to "safe" lineups because the music is actually secondary to the experience - it's the whole package of being on holiday with their mates, taking pills, watching GoGo Dancers and copping off with strangers on the beach that pulls the punters in, not the prospect of hearing 9PM (Til I Come) or Silence for the fourteen millionth time. You could get away with putting a MoS mixtape on in Manumission or Space most of the time and nobody would care or notice. The marketing job they've managed is absolutely incredible.

Still, the masses lap it up.. it's no different to Britney Spears or Jessie J clearing more bank than Björk or Janelle Monae really. Drag your product down to the lowest common denominator and you might piss off the purists, but you'll be too busy swimming in cash, coke and hookers to give a flying fuck about what a bunch of broke nerds think.

Kind of sad really as I would fucking love to go to see say Sasha and Digweed in Space but like youve said its kind of got this whole magaluf "lets get fucked and shag some birds" attitude now rather than Lets see Amazing Djs/Music in Amazing clubs.

Nevalo wrote:prydz is a g

There was a great video a while ago (taken down now) called "HOW TO GET A BEATPORT NUMBER ONE" and basically followed the Swedish House Mafia's release of one of their singles, and the marketing techniques they'd used to get it there.

Though it is worth stating that on a slow week, 600-700 sales will get you a Beatport number one status. You could almost gravy train it, invest a couple of thousand getting your track to number one (providing it was half decent) by purchasing sales for a fortnight or whatever, then at the same time hit up some agencies with a DJ promo mix (again, relative competency required) and you'd probably make your coin back within a few weeks of international gigs from the more 'commercial' dance music clubs around the world.

Reinvest into some studio time, get an engineer to assist in making the tracks, crank out a couple of follow up singles to keep things moving, maybe a collaboration with another artist from a slightly different genre to yourself that you met whilst doing one of your initial gigs, get a nice vocal track with some crossover potential...

...simple really. Superstardom could be yours for £3k.

some fucking dumbass comments in this thread

it's true about beatport top10 tho

I don't care what some people say, Pete Tong is a legend. FFRR.

herbs wrote:I don't care what some people say, Pete Tong is a legend. FFRR.

it's not that different from skrillex or deadmau5 or top40 garbage. he supports commercial music and generic dance stuff, he has the power to promoting some quality artists and talents to an HUGE audience, instead not only he does not produce any music, but he play the most generic, souless, uninspired music, making big money too. He is a marketing/hype machine, no problem if you like, but legends are others !

better mary anne in the radio scene

magma wrote:

ketamine wrote:

southstar wrote:I always wonder who all these millions of people are who listen to trance or whatever judge jules and the like play, i literally dont think i've ever met anyone who still listens to that shit

Its just generic "dance music" to the majority of people who stream to the clubs on the weekends. The same kind of people who would roll their eyes at you if you mentioned any electronic music by name--they don't know they're listening to "Trance" per-se, they're just in the clubs (NY/Miami/LA/Ibiza, etc) trying to hook up or get hammered... Jersey Shore style...

Exactly. The crowd came to dance, they didn't come to expand their artistic horizons.

The interesting part for me is the less the crowds care about what the DJ plays, the more the DJ can get paid. It's not like people on holiday in Ibiza are going to stay away from the superclubs due to "safe" lineups because the music is actually secondary to the experience - it's the whole package of being on holiday with their mates, taking pills, watching GoGo Dancers and copping off with strangers on the beach that pulls the punters in, not the prospect of hearing 9PM (Til I Come) or Silence for the fourteen millionth time. You could get away with putting a MoS mixtape on in Manumission or Space most of the time and nobody would care or notice. The marketing job they've managed is absolutely incredible.

Still, the masses lap it up.. it's no different to Britney Spears or Jessie J clearing more bank than Björk or Janelle Monae really. Drag your product down to the lowest common denominator and you might piss off the purists, but you'll be too busy swimming in cash, coke and hookers to give a flying fuck about what a bunch of broke nerds think.

and now I cannot wait for Ibiza in Sept

Not suprised to see some familiar names in there.

"I can feel the beat... feel the beat... feel the beat... feel the beat..."

the breakdown on that tune too.