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Re: Top 50 (Rap) Lyricists Of All Time...
Biggie had the best flow and one of the best story telling abilities.
Big L was just straight amazing, better than big in many ways.
Both were, in many respects, better than Tupac.
When I say Tupac was the most influential i'm not talking about influencing the hip hop industry (although he certainly did, very much so), i'm talking about reaching and inspiring your average Joe. Tupac's abilities lay in being able to get a real message across to the masses, a social commentary that had previously not reached as many people. Sure people had been pushing the same message before, speaking on the ills of society and the plight of black Americans, but, due to his last two albums, the infamous beef and subsequent death that message reached thugs who were unwilling to listen to people kick knowledge and middle-class white teens on the other side of the world alike. Hence, most influential.
Greatest rapper =/= beast at rapping. Ya feel me?
Anyway, all three are sick imo.
Big L was just straight amazing, better than big in many ways.
Both were, in many respects, better than Tupac.
When I say Tupac was the most influential i'm not talking about influencing the hip hop industry (although he certainly did, very much so), i'm talking about reaching and inspiring your average Joe. Tupac's abilities lay in being able to get a real message across to the masses, a social commentary that had previously not reached as many people. Sure people had been pushing the same message before, speaking on the ills of society and the plight of black Americans, but, due to his last two albums, the infamous beef and subsequent death that message reached thugs who were unwilling to listen to people kick knowledge and middle-class white teens on the other side of the world alike. Hence, most influential.
Greatest rapper =/= beast at rapping. Ya feel me?
Anyway, all three are sick imo.
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the fact that e-40 isnt on there is kinda bullshit too
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mo respect wrote:the fact that e-40 isnt on there is kinda bullshit too
totally forgot about 40
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Fifty cent is a great mc. Sometimes he doesn't even need to rhyme which can't be said for anyone else imo.
'in school I couldn't do good, now I can't do bad'
Guess who's back is classic. I personally rate him way above nas, westside christian janet jackson film poet moron and dribble face.
'in school I couldn't do good, now I can't do bad'
Guess who's back is classic. I personally rate him way above nas, westside christian janet jackson film poet moron and dribble face.
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i find DOOMs flow to be a part of the appeal reallyrayman612 wrote:i missed prodigy & kool keith on there
i still think DOOM although his flow is staggered has very impressive lyrics
& most influential would probably be guys from like the Fat Boys or LL Cool J in that vein of golden age stuff
also im a massive DOOM fanboy so maybe my opinion doesn't count
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fractal wrote:pretty sure he's on the 50 worst list, in the section titled "doesn't remember any of his lyrics (not that it matters)"JizzMan wrote:...
no lil b either?
and yeah I gotta agree, part of the reason why I love DOOM's style is his flow, its brilliant
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*scans list quickly to see if it contains Illogic at any point*
*doesn't see his name anywhere*
*immediately disregards crappy list compiled by person who obviously doesn't have a clue*
*doesn't see his name anywhere*
*immediately disregards crappy list compiled by person who obviously doesn't have a clue*
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Is Gift of Gab or any of the J5 crew even on that list?
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Fuck me, Redman is actually on that list too?
This doesn't like a top 50 list, it just looks like a list if you asked a random Joe to "name as many rappers as they can"
absolute shite
This doesn't like a top 50 list, it just looks like a list if you asked a random Joe to "name as many rappers as they can"
absolute shite
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I suppose Matlock is too white to be considered a rapper too
How can someone who spits so incredibly well be rated a worse rapper than someone like Kanye West who can barely string two rhymes together?
How can someone who spits so incredibly well be rated a worse rapper than someone like Kanye West who can barely string two rhymes together?
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuu double post
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hugh wrote:I suppose Matlock is too white to be considered a rapper too
How can someone who spits so incredibly well be rated a worse rapper than someone like Kanye West who can barely string two rhymes together?
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matlock isn't obscure 
besides, my point is that people like Kanye West are far worse than so many other famous rappers that including him on a list of top spitters just shows the compilers ignorance through and through.
besides, my point is that people like Kanye West are far worse than so many other famous rappers that including him on a list of top spitters just shows the compilers ignorance through and through.
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lol, herbs smashed it! Was going to post that Wub quote but scrolled down and saw i'd be beaten to it.
No one going to take me up on the Tupac argument, nah?
Seeeeen! Tupac wins by default!!
No one going to take me up on the Tupac argument, nah?
Seeeeen! Tupac wins by default!!
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any time i hear tupac i just get annoyed, its his voice, and the fact he has that exact same meter/flow in every track ive ever heardLaszlo wrote:lol, herbs smashed it! Was going to post that Wub quote but scrolled down and saw i'd be beaten to it.
No one going to take me up on the Tupac argument, nah?
Seeeeen! Tupac wins by default!!
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That's absolutely fair. I can't stand Jay-Z for similar reasons.rayman612 wrote:any time i hear tupac i just get annoyed, its his voice, and the fact he has that exact same meter/flow in every track ive ever heard
I know it's all opinions but his flow is very different when comparing tracks from before and after his prison stint. Even then, I can think of a few different styles of flow he had on the two albums after he came out.... You're younger though, ay? Maybe (and this is a real problem when talking about Tupac) you have just been subjected to the tracks he had no control over that came out after his death (?). A lot of his posthumous releases only served to water down his previous output because they were templates/throw-aways for tracks/albums he already put out. That's why a lot of his stuff now sounds the same.
'R U Still Down' is wicked though!
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Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z is still sick too. I still play it quite a bit
I don't think I'll ever get enough of I Get Around
I don't think I'll ever get enough of I Get Around
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also i must say im very much influenced by the production b/c i hate pretty much all of itLaszlo wrote:That's absolutely fair. I can't stand Jay-Z for similar reasons.rayman612 wrote:any time i hear tupac i just get annoyed, its his voice, and the fact he has that exact same meter/flow in every track ive ever heard
I know it's all opinions but his flow is very different when comparing tracks from before and after his prison stint. Even then, I can think of a few different styles of flow he had on the two albums after he came out.... You're younger though, ay? Maybe (and this is a real problem when talking about Tupac) you have just been subjected to the tracks he had no control over that came out after his death (?). A lot of his posthumous releases only served to water down his previous output because they were templates/throw-aways for tracks/albums he already put out. That's why a lot of his stuff now sounds the same.
'R U Still Down' is wicked though!
ive listened to 2 albums & only track i like is old school
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