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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by lovelydivot » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:48 pm

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by hubb » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:32 pm

@ Lucifa
so, bollocks, basically
It's beyond ironic that you finish your argument with a word that means male genitalia and without even realizing it.
I'm afraid that is just how deep that very principle is rooted.

But you might have a fair point in saying that class difference is more important, still. I have the same issue when people talk animal welfare in a point in time where actual humans are getting hurt continuously and we have limited means.

Also the UK is a bit more progressive in who they have as presenters compared with most of the rest of the world.
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by Lucifa » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:53 pm

hubb wrote: But you might have a fair point in saying that class difference is more important, still. I have the same issue when people talk animal welfare in a point in time where actual humans are getting hurt continuously and we have limited means.

Also the UK is a bit more progressive in who they have as presenters compared with most of the rest of the world.
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by pembroke » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:05 pm

lovelydivot wrote: I find it interesting to mention sports - because in my opinion the whole concept of sport is masculine...
Not saying woman can't or shouldn't do it...
Not saying they don't enjoy it...
But competition to me isn't feminine - co-operation and sharing would be...

competive sailing would exist - but only because it wouldn't be about beating someone
- it would be about how far can your team push a boat.
And we'd all stand back and marvel at the success of the boats.
Are you actually joking? Like seriously? Do you not see how this point alone is illogical?
How exactly can you have competition if the goal of it is not to establish some kind of victor? Even in your example, the objective is to see who sails the furthest. Is the team that sails furthest supposed to be beaten up afterwards? Or perhaps a speeding tax? What is your rationale here?
Competition is something that occurs whenever more than one person desires a particular resource. Competition, by definition, itself means that there are losers...
Think about it on the most fundamental level, there is a reason women wear make-up and by cute clothes, and will even come to blows over a man. It's competition.
Do you simply deny the other half of the Olympics? What about Soft-ball and Field-hockey? And all the other competitive sports with Female athletes?
In fact, at my last school, there was a girl on the varsity American Football team.

Sometimes it actually sounds like you're trolling and nothing more


On the idea of feminizing institution and industry - This is huge...
We are fully engaged in a "world" that has been created for and by men - and it does systematically repress...
I'm thinking here for a minute - I was going to say in systematically represses women but I'm not -
Keep reading and see the side bar***at the end

exp. Driving an 18 wheeler to deliver cross country...

wouldn't be happening (at least not in it's current form) if women had a signifigent contribution.

the machines would be far more finessed from an engineering standpoint
...simultaneously lower to the ground and higher at the shoulder

AND Big Trucking - probably wouldn't be happening in any signifigent amount at all -

- My guess is that trains and smaller shuttle types of local mini-train/underground trams would be in place...
towns/business centers would be designed around a local mini-monorail tram delivery system..
and it would be considered infrastructure - so it would be a high governmental agency...

None of this trying to fit a huge clumsy vehicle down a retro-sized downtown
- smashing bicyclists with their wide right hand turns.

Tooling would have to be far more advanced - electrically and hydrolically - which would be expensive
All of it in fact - would require lots more engineering and thought and money to get it fem-ready

Which is probably the reason it and we are not there - yet? We are still in an age brute'

***So - The system is not actively repressing women - the repression is just a symptom of
a practically underdeveloped - everything.
You seem to have missed the fact that the reason people didn't do things like that has nothing to do with "manliness" and all to do with convenience.
The roads came before the trucks. Do you expect that we then go and re-design every road on earth? That's illogical and impracticable. Even tools, the reason those weren't developed that way is because of the fact that the technology needed to do so didn't, and in many cases still doesn't, exist.

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by lovelydivot » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:26 am

If a mom dolphin has to fall back to swim with her child or a sick one - you can not call her a loser.

FUCK THAT STUPID GAME.

You weren't playing that game until you got it in your head that your balls needed to swell up to catch the tasty fish.

You shitty ass greedavore - Get the fuck away from me...


lol



you fucking hellasious mutation

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by Muncey » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:07 pm

hubb wrote:@ Lucifa
so, cuntflaps, basically
It's beyond ironic that you finish your argument with a word that means male genitalia and without even realizing it.
I'm afraid that is just how deep that very principle is rooted.
Fixed :w:

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by pembroke » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:23 pm

lovelydivot wrote:If a mom dolphin has to fall back to swim with her child or a sick one - you can not call her a loser.

FUCK THAT STUPID GAME.

You weren't playing that game until you got it in your head that your balls needed to swell up to catch the tasty fish.

You shitty ass greedavore - Get the fuck away from me...


lol



you fucking hellasious mutation
You're very presumptuous.

My arguments weren't against feminism, I was merely tellig you that your points are illogical. Pipe down.

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by lovelydivot » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:18 pm

well - your doing it wrong - UUUGNNN

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by lovelydivot » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:17 pm

I mean - I engage in racism - FEMININE racism
- which is catogorizing people in order to appreciate their beauty in juxtaposition.

Unlike - MASCULINE racism
- which seeks to quantify the juxtapostion in order to determine superiority.
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by lovelydivot » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:22 pm

lol-maths

rejecting math on social principle...



Do you guys hear me on here - just owning all kinds of shit as feminine...

Luckily there is a structural fail safe built into the entire feminine arguement - that rejects the concept of success - as a constant.
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by lovelydivot » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:26 pm

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by Genevieve » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:34 pm

If men designed the world for men and wanted to keep women where they supposedly thought they belonged, in the kitchen and at home all day taking care of the household, they wouldn't have designed machines and appliances that enabled them to spend less time at home and more time out, for example working jobs. And then they wouldn't have developed birth control pills. There would be no daycare centers either.

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by dickman69 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:25 pm

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by Dystinkt » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:52 am

really interesting thread, been a good read so far, heres my 2 pence for what its worth-

Equality for me is when the best person succeeds in any given field and nobody considers anything other than how capable they are. It is a little bit idealistic, but if I was in a job where other people's performances directly affected me in any way, I couldn't give two fucks what gender race or class the other people are, so long as they're the best for the job. However, I do think it's important to empower women to believe they can do anything they believe they are capable of, as an example, the best undiscovered scientist on the planet right now might be a woman, but she just might not think its possible to go out and achieve her potential. Apologies for my ham-fisted way of explaining what I think, hope I made sense.

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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by Genevieve » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:02 am

Edit: meh very tired of the htread and repeating myself. I'm done wit' it. I wasn't like attacking anyone in this post I'm just so bored with the subject. it jsut went on for too long for me
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by deadly_habit » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:07 am

I wish one of the mods would just make divot/maroon filter since it seem like she is responding to normal threads but to her own board so we could actually have normal conversations on here without here complaining.
That girl combats logical arguments of black and white with graphing calculators, no one knows wtf she's on about.
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by meanmrcustard » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:21 am

Anyone that doesn't believe sexism isn't an issue anymore is either very deluded or ignorant. It might be very subtle these days, but it's there, in nearly every aspect of our lives.

LOLZ at the discussion of sexism on the sausage fest that is dubstepforum though.
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by deadly_habit » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:23 am

sexism and feminism is def an issue, bright maroon/divot is one crazy person.
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by nousd » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:25 am

this is probably patronizing, so fuck me

but ^^
BM seems to be making an effort to be less random/more relevant nowdays
and trying to discipline her stream of consciousness to communicate more clearly

jeez, we don't want to lose one of the few femmes that stick around,
particularly ones that are adventurous and creative
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Re: Reasons we need feminism

Post by lovelydivot » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:27 am

deadly habit wrote: helix must have been hard up -w-
...for the use of turntables for a split second - and nothing else because I'm old enough to be his mother.

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