Do you think abstract art should be considered art?

exfox · Post by **exfox** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:13 pm

lovelydivot wrote:You know - I really want to explain ...

But part of their genius - Is when you have finally lived and thought enough to get it...

That epiphanous moment when your own mind reveals something really funny in the driest way...

syrup · Post by **syrup** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:14 pm

garethom wrote:
murky21 wrote:haha I'm just pulling your leg. sure u know more about those dudes than most (certainly me)

That turner is a beaut. Definitely a heavyweight of the abstract game.

Rain Steam and Speed is also a percy

that's a banger painting man, big up.

pull that shit up

Mason · Post by **Mason** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:47 pm

jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music

not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.

Words · Post by **Words** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:57 pm

how is this a thread in 2013

jorge · Post by **jorge** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:21 pm

Mason wrote:
jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music
not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.

yeah for some pieces, and your welcome to question whether they are art or if that is music but it doesn't say anything about abstract art or electronic music in general.

No analogy is perfect but I think that one is pretty good, specially considering there is a degree of abstraction to most electronic music.

anyway this discussion is a couple of centuries too late and even then it was silly.

lets just look at pictures

Kandinsky is one of my favourites, think he was inspired alot by music aswell.

garethom · Post by **garethom** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:44 pm

Bun Kadinsky man, all his stuff looks like an opening screen for Encarta.

cloquet · Post by **cloquet** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:57 pm

Yes.

Mason wrote:
jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music
not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.

That is music.

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:17 pm

garethom · Post by **garethom** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:05 pm

Read about how loads of the impressionist artists had eye problems that probably meant their paintings where closer to what they actually saw than we think.

skimpi · Post by **skimpi** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:51 am

I went to one of the gallerys, and there was a bin that they had to put some barrier around cos it was actually a piece, and people kept putting rubbish in it thinking it was a real bin

cloquet · Post by **cloquet** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:14 am

skimpi wrote:I went to one of the gallerys, and there was a bin that they had to put some barrier around cos it was actually a piece, and people kept putting rubbish in it thinking it was a real bin

maybe that was the intention, that people would mistake it for a bin & contribute to the piece?

exfox · Post by **exfox** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:48 am

Mason wrote:
jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music
not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowercase_(music)

kay · Post by **kay** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:04 am

Are the two Turners that have been posted considered abstract? They look pretty realistic to me, if a bit stylised. You know, sorta like a photo captured through a number of lenses, filters, blurry glass panes and then processed in a certain way. Wouldn't a photo like that be just considered photography instead of abstract photography?

skimpi · Post by **skimpi** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:02 pm

cloquet wrote:
skimpi wrote:I went to one of the gallerys, and there was a bin that they had to put some barrier around cos it was actually a piece, and people kept putting rubbish in it thinking it was a real bin
maybe that was the intention, that people would mistake it for a bin & contribute to the piece?

why would they put a barrier round it though? just had a couple bits of gum stuck to the bottom of it

At the same exhibition, there was like some clothes on show and a live model just standing there wearing one of them. Turns out she was only there for a couple hours one day a week and happened to be the time i was there.

lovelydivot · Post by **lovelydivot** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:54 pm

I had fun in the art museum just last week - I took one of my little cousins Jacob - a 6 year old...

and in the Duchamp room - They have that piece set up where you have to peek through a hole in a door...
and it a voyeuristic thing - you see some gash...

and I spent like 20 minutes in there with him going back and forth...
him wanting to see - then not wanting because he was "scared"...

I told him I'd lift him up if he really wanted to know...

but we decided to go back next year instead - and maybe he would be ready to see then...

I was laughing the whole time...

He loved the Cy Twombly room...all kids seem to love Cy Twombly

this is exactly where we were sitting...

hifi · Post by **hifi** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:29 pm

you mean stuff like mark rothko? yea

teebs makes art as well that i'd consider pretty abstract

hifi · Post by **hifi** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:31 pm

magma wrote:Yes, next question.

but firstly answer my mine : (

extremesociety · Post by **extremesociety** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:38 pm

Yes.

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hifi · Post by **hifi** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:19 pm

though hieronymus bosch was next level for 15th century renaissance/early netherlandish art. surreal before surrealism

Gewze · Post by **Gewze** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:31 pm

anyone got any abstract surrealism

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