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nowaysj wrote:Look at when Jedi's die, and then they become kind of shimmery and holographic.

.... 2Pac was a Jedi??

if u cant laugh at death what can you laugh at

garethom wrote:

nitz wrote: Death should never be a matter of comedy, unless the person in question did crazy stuff, i.e crimes against humanity. Hitler or someone alike.

Like signing off on terrorist attacks that killed innocent people?

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station.

Two of the ANC’s biggest donors, in the 1990s, were Colonel Muammar Gaddafi of Libya and President Suharto of Indonesia . Not only did Mandela refrain from criticising their lamentable human rights records but he interceded diplomatically on their behalf, and awarded them South Africa ‘s highest honour.

He did a lot of good for the natives of South Africa, that's undoubtable, but it's almost never entirely good vs entirely bad. So many "good" characters from history have very dark sides.

Oh come on man, that's just BS. I knew someone who bring this up.

Your last 2 sentence exactly - almost every huge public figure his done something inherently bad/wrong.

When margaret thatcher passed away, like my dad told me, she's did a lot loads of things good. But people hold remembers the poll tax - shit you're bound to make mistakes at on point, but that does mean sit on them and point at them every time. People making the joke song about her, shit my family heavily disagreed with her in their time about a number of things, but when she passed away it was unfortunately, not an event to start rinsing her.

nowaysj wrote:Look at when Jedi's die, and then they become kind of shimmery and holographic.

Not all Jedis, though. It's thought that Qui-Gon Jinn was the first to reach this level of force wielding. He became immortal by being at peace with death. Something he was thought to have passed on to Yoda and his apprentice, Obi-Wan Kenobi. It's a feat that was sought after by Sith lords, most notably Darth Sidious. But the Sith's obsession with material wealth and absolute power kept them from reaching this level of understanding of life and death. It's the great irony in the Star Wars universe that those who most value immortality are incapable of achieving it.

Genevieve wrote:

nowaysj wrote:Look at when Jedi's die, and then they become kind of shimmery and holographic.

Not all Jedis, though. It's thought that Qui-Gon Jinn was the first to reach this level of force wielding. He became immortal by being at peace with death. Something he was thought to have passed on to Yoda and his apprentice, Obi-Wan Kenobi. It's a feat that was sought after by Sith lords, most notably Darth Sidious. But the Sith's obsession with material wealth and absolute power kept them from reaching this level of understanding of life and death. It's the great irony in the Star Wars universe that those who most value immortality are incapable of achieving it.

nitz wrote:

garethom wrote:

nitz wrote: Death should never be a matter of comedy, unless the person in question did crazy stuff, i.e crimes against humanity. Hitler or someone alike.

Like signing off on terrorist attacks that killed innocent people?

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station.

Two of the ANC’s biggest donors, in the 1990s, were Colonel Muammar Gaddafi of Libya and President Suharto of Indonesia . Not only did Mandela refrain from criticising their lamentable human rights records but he interceded diplomatically on their behalf, and awarded them South Africa ‘s highest honour.

He did a lot of good for the natives of South Africa, that's undoubtable, but it's almost never entirely good vs entirely bad. So many "good" characters from history have very dark sides.

Oh come on man, that's just BS. I knew someone who bring this up.

Your last 2 sentence exactly - almost every huge public figure his done something inherently bad/wrong.

When margaret thatcher passed away, like my dad told me, she's did a lot loads of things good. But people hold remembers the poll tax - shit you're bound to make mistakes at on point, but that does mean sit on them and point at them every time. People making the joke song about her, shit my family heavily disagreed with her in their time about a number of things, but when she passed away it was unfortunately, not an event to start rinsing her.

Well, he admitted to that stuff at his trials, but yeah, ok. It's BS.

Dude, you're too sensitive for me. That's it really. Nobody is going to stop making jokes. Good or bad person, I'll make a joke if I can think of one. I just don't take shit as seriously as you do I guess. Must be grim if you take every significant passing as hard you did with this one.

m8son wrote:if u cant laugh at death what can you laugh at

You.

nitz wrote:Your last 2 sentence exactly - almost every huge public figure his done something inherently bad/wrong.

so does that make what they do ok?

sounds like ur gay for madela tbh

He was a 95 year old man that died in his sleep, there's nothing tragic about it. If anything Walker jokes are more inappropriate

"I'm going to have to disagree with that. When someone passes away, especially someone of the caliber of Mandela, they do to get a 'form' for new respect."

rofl

but southstar how dare you say that, Mandela is of greater caliber! .50

I think it's more tragic the way South African government dealt with his death.
Myself and many others believe he passed away some months ago but due to political tensions and the upcoming national elections, they chose to 'keep him alive' until it suited their agenda best.

This current news has coincidentally been released on the back of many damning reports of huge financial corruption by our current govt and President JZ in an effort to downsize the corruption and extreme money spending.

garethom wrote:

nitz wrote:

garethom wrote:

nitz wrote: Death should never be a matter of comedy, unless the person in question did crazy stuff, i.e crimes against humanity. Hitler or someone alike.

Like signing off on terrorist attacks that killed innocent people?

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station.

Two of the ANC’s biggest donors, in the 1990s, were Colonel Muammar Gaddafi of Libya and President Suharto of Indonesia . Not only did Mandela refrain from criticising their lamentable human rights records but he interceded diplomatically on their behalf, and awarded them South Africa ‘s highest honour.

He did a lot of good for the natives of South Africa, that's undoubtable, but it's almost never entirely good vs entirely bad. So many "good" characters from history have very dark sides.

Oh come on man, that's just BS. I knew someone who bring this up.

Your last 2 sentence exactly - almost every huge public figure his done something inherently bad/wrong.

When margaret thatcher passed away, like my dad told me, she's did a lot loads of things good. But people hold remembers the poll tax - shit you're bound to make mistakes at on point, but that does mean sit on them and point at them every time. People making the joke song about her, shit my family heavily disagreed with her in their time about a number of things, but when she passed away it was unfortunately, not an event to start rinsing her.

Well, he admitted to that stuff at his trials, but yeah, ok. It's BS.

Dude, you're too sensitive for me. That's it really. Nobody is going to stop making jokes. Good or bad person, I'll make a joke if I can think of one. I just don't take shit as seriously as you do I guess. Must be grim if you take every significant passing as hard you did with this one.

Making a joke the passing of Nelson Mandela makes me too sensitive, arite great rational reasoning behind that one.

I think it's a ethical thing. I have different some different ethicals to you. Whilst i would not make a joke about this matter, you could/would. Got nothing to do with sensitivity.

I tired for a good ten mins to put RIP Mandela on a morgan freeman picture with a "I had a dream" quote in paint at work and its just not happening.

Some people take shit too seriously.

#gay4mandela

Electric_Head wrote:I think it's more tragic the way South African government dealt with his death.
Myself and many others believe he passed away some months ago but due to political tensions and the upcoming national elections, they chose to 'keep him alive' until it suited their agenda best.

This current news has coincidentally been released on the back of many damning reports of huge financial corruption by our current govt and President JZ in an effort to downsize the corruption and extreme money spending.

The problem with that theory is that his family would all have to be in on the lie..

there all dead aswell replaced by robots

southstar wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:I think it's more tragic the way South African government dealt with his death.
Myself and many others believe he passed away some months ago but due to political tensions and the upcoming national elections, they chose to 'keep him alive' until it suited their agenda best.

This current news has coincidentally been released on the back of many damning reports of huge financial corruption by our current govt and President JZ in an effort to downsize the corruption and extreme money spending.

The problem with that theory is that his family would all have to be in on the lie..

You call it a lie, his family calls it a mourning period.
Xhosa culture actually calls for a mourning period.
They don't even have to notify a single person.
But there were various indicators which form part of Xhosa tradition that all indicated a death had occurred.
There are many reasons for my opinion.
Including the family actually visiting his grave site countless times before today.
The fact that he was declared dead a few months back and then was miraculously improving.

It's not that I think he or anyone should be immune to jokes for the rest of eternity, but how about introducing an iota of wit to sweeten the pill rather than just adapting the same old tired jokes? Paragraphs of weak parody that would be embarrassing to find in a 12 year old's journal? Photoshops of Morgan Freeman that come out every time an old black man dies these days? Really? This is good enough material to make public? Or was it only even remotely funny because Genevieve, who admits his penchant for race trolling fairly freely, knew it would push buttons at an entirely inappropriate time?

Perhaps if people had taken the time to show some respect before they reached for the http://www.SameOldSameOld.com Internet Joke Generator, it would've been ever so slightly less jarring.

Grow the fuck up.

magma where was this respect when thatcher died? as far as i'm aware she was never directly responsible for the deaths of innocent people?