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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:09 pm
by alex bk-bk
ye i didnt mean literally turn into them, i meant culturally take their place. but yeah. done here.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:03 pm
by alan
i used to love tool when i was little.

doom and dub have the same core elements...most metal on the other hand have seamed to miss the fact you need weight in the bass to be heavey. or just plain abrasive.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:53 pm
by unlikely
oh my days!

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:27 pm
by auralassassin
KION wrote:Hypocracy..
Auralassassin wrote: piracy is the same as walking into a store with a gun and robbing the place.

:roll:
Kion, you should keep in mind that the way the track leaked was thus:

The distributor(Zombamusic.com) has posted the link to a WAV of the song for Radio stations all over the world to download and play on the radio. The link got out. So the track was posted BY THE LABEL, ON A PUBLIC WEBSITE. How could I be a HYPOCRIT, when I just accepted the gift that the label gave to me?

In short, it's not really a bad one on me, it's a bad one on the label--they leaked it themselves.

And for those who think that TOOL doesn't take care of the bass end of things, you are SADLY mistaken. Justin Chancellor is one of the best bassists IN THE WORLD. And their bass player plays the melody AND the rhythm. I'm beginning to think that I'm not the bandwagon jumper--and that some of you don't even know what the hell TOOL sounds like.

It was the "metal" comments that really gave it away.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:31 pm
by marsyas
seen this on initial post, knew it was gonna be a 5 pager at least.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:12 pm
by auralassassin
Marsyas wrote:seen this on initial post, knew it was gonna be a 5 pager at least.
It wouldn't be so bad if they were respectful and either didn't post, or were respectful with the responses.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:21 pm
by moderator
If any forum member threatens violence or abuses another forum member (whether it's implied/obvious or in jest), the member in question will get a warning. If the member continues to be abusive and threatening, his/her account will be removed from the forum. This isn't a place that promotes or condones bad energy. Please be adults.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:49 pm
by the lexxus
I <3 Tool, always have.

I would be awe struck if Danny Carey would track some live Dubstep drums!! :D
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:31 pm
by knifedreams
utrix wrote:Anyone 'ere into ISIS? now that's a fucking band.
fuck yeah, missed em on tour last week.

:(

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:14 am
by declipse
wow, i dont think i even want to touch this one.

deep breaths, crew.

music= :w:

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:26 am
by quiverpigeon
he pissed on your fucking rug, dude.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:36 am
by viceroy
The Lexxus wrote:
I would be awe struck if Danny Carey would track some live Dubstep drums!! :D
Not really into Tool, every song basically sounds the same.

With that said, Danny Carey is a fucking mad man.

I wish threads could get to page 5 without being so shitty.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:54 am
by auralassassin
Tool isn't as narrow and pointless as everyone wants to slate them as being....

Stinkfist:

The aenema album is about the evolution of humankind to the next level and how mankind itself is merely a stepping stone toward that higher consciousness. It begins with Stinkfist which, like a lot of Keenans songs, is layered richly with symbolism and metaphor. On the surface it seems to be using fist-fucking as a metaphor for trying to connect in this modern life where we are so alienated that we are nearly numb. We've reached a critical point in our evolution. ("Something has to change, undeniable dilemma") We need to feel something to even know we're alive anymore. I like the way one of the verses goes from finger deep to knuckle deep to elbow deep and ends with shoulder deep. It's visual and disturbing. And then the way "turn around and take my hand" could mean either inside you or like a lover extending comfort. All in all this whole album is an onion full of metaphysical concepts, Jungian symbolism and human evolutionary ideas. The more you peel away the more you'll see. It's one of my personal favorites. We're almost completely numb by the end... then we come to Lateralus, which is all about the split that this causes between other people, and OURSELVES... which leads us into--

Vicarious:

In my opinion this song is about how we as a society have FINALLY become so desensitized to all that is around us and in order to satisfy our desires we must constantly push the boundaries ever further.

Could you at least admit that your desire to believe,
The angels in the hearts of men.
Pull your head on out,
Your head believes so give a listen.
Shouldn't have to say it all again.
The universe is hostile,
So impersonal.
Devour to survive, so it is,
So its always been.


We all feed on tragedy.
It's like bood to vampire.
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies.
Much better you than I.

I think I might like the story being told here, if it wasn't the Autobiography of the planet we live on...so remember when you slate this track as being "too political" that you are calling "Stinkfist" too political. And Stinkfist is a fucking ACE track.

Viceroy, you should check this track out, man... Danny Carey's BEST work to date--he gets so wicked on this one... it builds in a 5/4, and towards the end, he takes every other drummer on the planet to town and schools them. Proper smashing trash!


Thoughts... feelings... rebuttle?

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:07 pm
by tomb6000
quiverpigeon wrote:he pissed on your fucking rug, dude.
That rug really held the room together

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:32 pm
by alan
i like isis. the next gigs im going to are burning star core in brighton and knut in bristol. knut are the best band on hydrahead, much better than isis...isis crush live tho, but on record there starting to sound alittle like u2 which is scary.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:41 pm
by alex bk-bk
only hydrahead thing ive felt in ages was the last pelican lp

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:42 pm
by quiverpigeon
yeh knut this thurs then dmz on fri in sheffield... ruffhouse

wasn't distance in a rock or metal band before he produced?

genesis though...

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:15 pm
by mr. messer
auralassassin wrote:Tool isn't as narrow and pointless as everyone wants to slate them as being....

Stinkfist:

The aenema album is about the evolution of humankind to the next level and how mankind itself is merely a stepping stone toward that higher consciousness. It begins with Stinkfist which, like a lot of Keenans songs, is layered richly with symbolism and metaphor. On the surface it seems to be using fist-fucking as a metaphor for trying to connect in this modern life where we are so alienated that we are nearly numb. We've reached a critical point in our evolution. ("Something has to change, undeniable dilemma") We need to feel something to even know we're alive anymore. I like the way one of the verses goes from finger deep to knuckle deep to elbow deep and ends with shoulder deep. It's visual and disturbing. And then the way "turn around and take my hand" could mean either inside you or like a lover extending comfort. All in all this whole album is an onion full of metaphysical concepts, Jungian symbolism and human evolutionary ideas. The more you peel away the more you'll see. It's one of my personal favorites. We're almost completely numb by the end... then we come to Lateralus, which is all about the split that this causes between other people, and OURSELVES... which leads us into--

Vicarious:

In my opinion this song is about how we as a society have FINALLY become so desensitized to all that is around us and in order to satisfy our desires we must constantly push the boundaries ever further.

Could you at least admit that your desire to believe,
The angels in the hearts of men.
Pull your head on out,
Your head believes so give a listen.
Shouldn't have to say it all again.
The universe is hostile,
So impersonal.
Devour to survive, so it is,
So its always been.


We all feed on tragedy.
It's like bood to vampire.
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies.
Much better you than I.

I think I might like the story being told here, if it wasn't the Autobiography of the planet we live on...so remember when you slate this track as being "too political" that you are calling "Stinkfist" too political. And Stinkfist is a fucking ACE track.

Viceroy, you should check this track out, man... Danny Carey's BEST work to date--he gets so wicked on this one... it builds in a 5/4, and towards the end, he takes every other drummer on the planet to town and schools them. Proper smashing trash!


Thoughts... feelings... rebuttle?
baaaaaaaaaaahahahahahha

ill stick to my Rimbaud thank you

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:55 pm
by alan
Alex bk-bk wrote:only hydrahead thing ive felt in ages was the last pelican lp
yea the new pelican is fun. there hasn't been much coming out of hydrahead at the mo.
the new earth record is a good un tho.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:04 pm
by search
"On the surface it seems to be using fist-fucking as a metaphor for trying to connect in this modern life where we are so alienated that we are nearly numb."


Thats priceless.