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rickyarbino wrote:

magma wrote:

rickyarbino wrote:Yeah, but there's no reason
Just boils down to greed imho. Not saying I'd let a dog eat me if it was hungry, but our 'importance' is no reason to justify moral conduct between species.

We are white, therefore it's perfectly natural for us to think that white people are the most important people. The perpetuation of our genetic line is ingrained in all of us, like it is in all people. I'll try harder to make my people survive than any other. Within the population, I'll try harder to make my family line survive than any other.

You might be able to abstract yourself from that with drum-circle philosophy, but it doesn't make it any less true. You'd defend your Mum or your Son harder than you'll defend your neighbour, unless you're a proper wrong'n.

If you could ask a black person, it'd probably think black people are.

Naturalistic is the primary interest and affection for wildlife and the outdoors.
Ecologistic is the primary concern for the environment as a system, for interrelationships between wildlife species and natural habitat.
Humanistic is the primary concern and strong affection for individual animals, principally pets.
Moralistic is the primary concern for the right and wrong treatment of animals, with strong opposition to exploitation or cruelty towards animals.
Scientistic is primary interest in the physical attributes and biological functioning of animals.
Aesthetic is primary concern in the artistic and symbolic characteristics of animals.
Utilitarian is primary concern for the practical and material value of animals of the animal's habitat.
Dominionistic is primary interest in the mastery and control of animals typically in sporting situations.
Negativistic is primary orientation for an active avoidance of animals due to indifference, dislike or fear

knowledge about animals and attitudes towards them have only a low correlation

rickyarbino wrote:

magma wrote:

rickyarbino wrote:Yeah, but there's no reason
Just boils down to greed imho. Not saying I'd let a dog eat me if it was hungry, but our 'importance' is no reason to justify moral conduct between species.

We are white, therefore it's perfectly natural for us to think that white people are the most important people. The perpetuation of our genetic line is ingrained in all of us, like it is in all people. I'll try harder to make my people survive than any other. Within the population, I'll try harder to make my family line survive than any other.

You might be able to abstract yourself from that with drum-circle philosophy, but it doesn't make it any less true. You'd defend your Mum or your Son harder than you'll defend your neighbour, unless you're a proper wrong'n.

If you could ask a black person, it'd probably think black people are.

magma wrote:

rickyarbino wrote:

magma wrote:

rickyarbino wrote:Yeah, but there's no reason
Just boils down to greed imho. Not saying I'd let a dog eat me if it was hungry, but our 'importance' is no reason to justify moral conduct between species.

We are white, therefore it's perfectly natural for us to think that white people are the most important people. The perpetuation of our genetic line is ingrained in all of us, like it is in all people. I'll try harder to make my people survive than any other. Within the population, I'll try harder to make my family line survive than any other.

You might be able to abstract yourself from that with drum-circle philosophy, but it doesn't make it any less true. You'd defend your Mum or your Son harder than you'll defend your neighbour, unless you're a proper wrong'n.

If you could ask a black person, it'd probably think black people are.

You're trying too hard to get a reaction here. Outside of family and friends, all humans are equal. Races aren't species, you silly person.

If I can mate with it, it's equal to me. If I love it, it's better.