Are you rasta or do we all just front its vibe?

[umkhontowesizwe]

and not to come off as homophobic but asexual reproduction in the human species is rare to say the least.

"Asexuality is a sexual orientation describing individuals who do not experience sexual attraction."

no shit?

[echo wanderer]

wait a minute the question was about like dubstep tracks that have reggae vibes from samples, dubstep isnt even rooted off of reggae or jamaica
AMIRITE?
So to say theres some infusion of dubstep and Jamaican culture is way off basis

Actually no.

Music is an integral part of any culture.It's one of the main things that define culture.

The concept of Hiphop comes from Jamaican soundsystems essentially and was started by a Jamaican.Look up Kool Herc and you'll see what I mean.Though the funk sound integration and the term were coined in New York,that doesn't change the fact that it was a Jamaican who invented the break,which is a big part of Hiphop,Garage,DnB,and Dubstep as well.The impact of Dub alone(the production technique not the sound) on everything from House music to DnB to Rock remixes to Dubstep to IDM to Ambient is undisputable.Even the idea of rapping comes from toasting!

So yes,Jamaican music has it's stamp all over the place.Pretty much all black music does.Ever heard of Rock'n'Roll,Soul,R&B,Dance,or Pop music?

As for the cultural aspects,maybe Dubstep isn't made by Jamaicans(apparently American Rock and Pop are big there),so there's an obvious lack of the culture on that.But I'm sure there are UK producers in Dubstep who are 2nd/3rd generation West Indian descended Londoners who incorporate thier families Jamaican culture into thier own,thus incorporating it into thier sound.

If there wasn't some sort of influence of Reggae and Jamaican culture,it wouldn't be proper to call it "DUB"step.The deep basslines,the half time beats,the cut-up vocals,heavy amounts of delay and reverb,etc...that is all a part of Jamaican Reggae & Dub dating back to the late '60s.

Personally,I came to Dubstep through Reggae and Dub,not 2Step/UKG or DnB,though I love both as well.My favourite period of DnB was the '93-97 Ragga Jungle years,mainly because of the heavy Reggae influence.And it's not exactly "rooted" in Roots culture,but then again,there were Dub tracks in the early '70s that had enough delay on them that the riddims almost became something like "proto-DnB".Jungle wasn't only about the Amen,you know.

[echo wanderer]

dubstep-->dub--> form of reggae-->reggage -.> form of music with jamaican origin.

Um...Reggae comes from Rocksteady,which came out of Ska,which was basically Jamaican Motown,which is from Detroit,Michigan,USA.The guitar sound was the main diferential there.It wasn't until later that The Rastafarian element brought into Rocksteady(a slower version of Ska essentially) through the addition of African rythyms and percussion(if you don't know about Burra,get to know).

[chunkie]

wait a minute the question was about like dubstep tracks that have reggae vibes from samples, dubstep isnt even rooted off of reggae or jamaica
AMIRITE?
So to say theres some infusion of dubstep and Jamaican culture is way off basis

Actually no.

Music is an integral part of any culture.It's one of the main things that define culture.

The concept of Hiphop comes from Jamaican soundsystems essentially and was started by a Jamaican.Look up Kool Herc and you'll see what I mean.Though the funk sound integration and the term were coined in New York,that doesn't change the fact that it was a Jamaican who invented the break,which is a big part of Hiphop,Garage,DnB,and Dubstep as well.The impact of Dub alone(the production technique not the sound) on everything from House music to DnB to Rock remixes to Dubstep to IDM to Ambient is undisputable.Even the idea of rapping comes from toasting!

So yes,Jamaican music has it's stamp all over the place.Pretty much all black music does.Ever heard of Rock'n'Roll,Soul,R&B,Dance,or Pop music?

As for the cultural aspects,maybe Dubstep isn't made by Jamaicans(apparently American Rock and Pop are big there),so there's an obvious lack of the culture on that.But I'm sure there are UK producers in Dubstep who are 2nd/3rd generation West Indian descended Londoners who incorporate thier families Jamaican culture into thier own,thus incorporating it into thier sound.

If there wasn't some sort of influence of Reggae and Jamaican culture,it wouldn't be proper to call it "DUB"step.The deep basslines,the half time beats,the cut-up vocals,heavy amounts of delay and reverb,etc...that is all a part of Jamaican Reggae & Dub dating back to the late '60s.

Personally,I came to Dubstep through Reggae and Dub,not 2Step/UKG or DnB,though I love both as well.My favourite period of DnB was the '93-97 Ragga Jungle years,mainly because of the heavy Reggae influence.And it's not exactly "rooted" in Roots culture,but then again,there were Dub tracks in the early '70s that had enough delay on them that the riddims almost became something like "proto-DnB".Jungle wasn't only about the Amen,you know.

Defo,

Red, dubstep maybe (on a grand scale) a niche form of underground music but the heritage runs as deep as the influences

the soundsystem vibe of dmz at 3rd base was straight out off the old dub&reggae vibe (just like what Valve had tried to bring to d'n'b)

mala's sub depth is, again, massively dub-influenced

etc etc

[echo wanderer]

mala's sub depth is, again, massively dub-influenced

And people wonder why I consider him to be my favourite Dubstep producer.The moment I first heard 'Anti-War Dub',I was hooked.To me it was a new Dub style.Then a bit later,I heard about this thing called Dubstep...

[thesynthesist]

let's face it, none of these books are telling anyone to hurt anyone else.

The bible says that gays should be put to death. And that's just for starters.

Maybe by the translation you're reading...

Doesnt sound very christian to me...

[echo wanderer]

the heritage runs as deep as the influences

Yup.

I always found it sad that so many Americans accredt Elvis with the birth of Rock'n'Roll,though even Elvis knew different.It seems in the UK it has always been considered a African-American Boogie Woogie/Jump Blues thing(ie.:Yardbirds,John Mayall's Bluesbreakers),not a white American sound.Sam Phillips only got Elvis because he loved the sound of the Blues - and so did Elvis - but couldn't sell it to the American people,due to the racial climate of the time.And Blues in itself goes back to slavery-era Gospel,which goes back to African spirituals.

Now,while Emo has almost completely whitewashed those elements out of Rock,we should all appreciate the fact that Electronic music hasn't lost sight of it's roots.In my opinion,Dubstep is the only music since Ragga Jungle that has flaunted it's Jamaican roots,whether or not any of the producers or listeners adhere to Rastafarian ideals.

I'm not a Rastafarian.I'm about as raggamuffin as they come.But music is my spirituality and Dub is my gospel.

[sines]

who decided dubstep had to be about reggae?

none of my tunes have any reggae or dub influences unless you want to say delays are a product of dub.

i listen to tons of dub and reggae, but i don't necessarily feel there is or should be an obvious parallel between dubstep and reggae music

it's up to the producer what sound he wants to create, and i guess a lot of people have just taken it upon themselves to fuse reggae and dubstep together.

but do i think that the takeover of the reggae sound has had a detrimental effect on dubstep? of course not, some of my favorite producers do almost exclusively reggae influenced tunes. but like i said, it's up to the producer. please remember where the dub in dubstep came from.

[flippo]

I just like bass

[pk-]

and not to come off as homophobic but asexual reproduction in the human species is rare to say the least.

wearing a condom probably doesn't help either

[sines]

I just like bass

MESSAGE

[thesynthesist]

please remember where the dub in dubstep came from.

YOU!

[echo wanderer]

none of my tunes have any reggae or dub influences unless you want to say delays are a product of dub.

&

please remember where the dub in dubstep came from.

If there wasn't some sort of influence of Reggae and Jamaican culture,it wouldn't be proper to call it "DUB"step.The deep basslines,the half time beats,the cut-up vocals,heavy amounts of delay and reverb,etc...that is all a part of Jamaican Reggae & Dub dating back to the late '60s.

Great minds think alike bruvva!

[sines]

no, my statement is that the dub in dubstep did not come from the reggae subgenre, but the term tagged on uk garage instrumental versions of vocal tunes

[umkhontowesizwe]

no, my statement is that the dub in dubstep did not come from the reggae subgenre, but the term tagged on uk garage instrumental versions of vocal tunes

which was a continuation of the term tagged on reggae instrumental versions of vocal tunes.

[tempest]

I'm just a regular dude. I do my thang a lil bit nuttin major... i aint tryin to make excuses, but when it gets like that, you gotta blame it on the jager

[sines]

no, my statement is that the dub in dubstep did not come from the reggae subgenre, but the term tagged on uk garage instrumental versions of vocal tunes

which was a continuation of the term tagged on reggae instrumental versions of vocal tunes.

right, but it's just a word. lots of words are taken from various sources without owing much to the original denotation

[echo wanderer]

no, my statement is that the dub in dubstep did not come from the reggae subgenre, but the term tagged on uk garage instrumental versions of vocal tunes

which was a continuation of the term tagged on reggae instrumental versions of vocal tunes.

right, but it's just a word. lots of words are taken from various sources without owing much to the original denotation

But it's not only the word in say,instrumental UKG.It's the production techniques used overall.The whole process is based heavily on dub technique.The deep basslines and that rimshot/woodblock snare is all Reggae.The "drum and bass" aspect in 2Step/UKG/Garage owes everything to it.

To clarify,I just looked up Wikipedia's description"

"Dub music is characterized as a "version" or "double" of an existing song, often instrumental, using B sides of 45 RPM records and typically emphasizing the drums and bass for a sound popular in local sound systems. The instrumental tracks are typically drenched in sound processing effects such as echo, reverberation, part vocal and extra percussion, with most of the lead instruments and vocals dropping in and out of the mix. Another hallmark of the dub sound is the massive low-pitched bass guitar. The music sometimes features processed sound effects and other noises, such as birds singing, thunder and lightning, water flowing, and producers shouting instructions at the musicians. It can be further augmented by live DJs. The many-layered sounds with varying echoes and volumes are often said to create soundscapes, or sound sculptures, drawing attention to the shape and depth of the space between sounds as well as to the sounds themselves. There is usually a distinctly organic characteristic of the music, even though the effects are electronically created."

Sounds like House,2Step/UKG,DnB,Hiphop,Triphop,and Dubstep to me.

[thesynthesist]

no, my statement is that the dub in dubstep did not come from the reggae subgenre, but the term tagged on uk garage instrumental versions of vocal tunes

which was a continuation of the term tagged on reggae instrumental versions of vocal tunes.

right, but it's just a word. lots of words are taken from various sources without owing much to the original denotation

Well that would make perfect sense, if you had never listened to dubstep before.

[step correct]

I'm just a regular dude. I do my thang a lil bit nuttin major... i aint tryin to make excuses, but when it gets like that, you gotta blame it on the jager