Hip Hop in the UK
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- context mc
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Alright,
Just found this forum the other week and been having a browse - really cool vibe if u know what I mean
Anyway, thought this thread was interesting. Cool to see a debate on UKHH that isn't the kind of pompous/self-indulgent style u read elsewhere
Anyway, lots of the thoughts on here are similar to what made me put together my newest EP and just thought some of you might fancy giving it a listen
Its called 'Dialectics' - kinda the realisation of a dialectic of hip hop/drum and bass/dubstep influences. Its up for free download from my myspace so maybe give it a listen if u fancy:
www.myspace.com/contextmc
Trying to walk the high wire between lyrical skill without sounding like the 'failed author' as someone mentioned earlier! haha - classic post about wandering round in a rainbow or something! haha. Some of the shit out there is so abstract its stupid. My lyrics are actually up in a blog if u are interested
I got new stuff comin out real soon as well - its got a more dubstep vibe to it. But yeah, thought u might be interested
Just found this forum the other week and been having a browse - really cool vibe if u know what I mean
Anyway, thought this thread was interesting. Cool to see a debate on UKHH that isn't the kind of pompous/self-indulgent style u read elsewhere
Anyway, lots of the thoughts on here are similar to what made me put together my newest EP and just thought some of you might fancy giving it a listen
Its called 'Dialectics' - kinda the realisation of a dialectic of hip hop/drum and bass/dubstep influences. Its up for free download from my myspace so maybe give it a listen if u fancy:
www.myspace.com/contextmc
Trying to walk the high wire between lyrical skill without sounding like the 'failed author' as someone mentioned earlier! haha - classic post about wandering round in a rainbow or something! haha. Some of the shit out there is so abstract its stupid. My lyrics are actually up in a blog if u are interested
I got new stuff comin out real soon as well - its got a more dubstep vibe to it. But yeah, thought u might be interested
Got Dr Syntax's album (Self taught) recently, its BIGGG
I only found out he was white once I got it

I only found out he was white once I got it



SoundcloudSoulstep wrote: My point is i just wanna hear more vibes
- darkmatteruk
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I follow the UKHH scene closely and although admitedly its not as exciting as it once was there is still A LOT of talent out there and a fair amount of good nights
the whole speakers corner / peoples army movement in london is wicked
there are some artists killing it at the moment, Kashmere, Jid sames, Sunken heads , mic righteous from the kraftsmen, triple darkness, sonnyjim, sir smurf etc
around 99/00 UKHH was reasonably fashionable to the extent where out of touch media types were writing articles about it for the sunday broadsheets.. bigging it up as an emerging scene; the fact is it is and was an active scene but it has just had varying levels of exposure over the years.. promoters dont back it (except a chosen few) and some important places for the scene such as deal real have closed down recently BUT if you can be bothered to check for it there is still plenty of sick talent out there..
also you got people like mystro killing it in australia etc .. so this shows that there is an international interest in ukhh (the hip hop end of it)..
the whole speakers corner / peoples army movement in london is wicked
there are some artists killing it at the moment, Kashmere, Jid sames, Sunken heads , mic righteous from the kraftsmen, triple darkness, sonnyjim, sir smurf etc
around 99/00 UKHH was reasonably fashionable to the extent where out of touch media types were writing articles about it for the sunday broadsheets.. bigging it up as an emerging scene; the fact is it is and was an active scene but it has just had varying levels of exposure over the years.. promoters dont back it (except a chosen few) and some important places for the scene such as deal real have closed down recently BUT if you can be bothered to check for it there is still plenty of sick talent out there..
also you got people like mystro killing it in australia etc .. so this shows that there is an international interest in ukhh (the hip hop end of it)..
SoundcloudSoulstep wrote: My point is i just wanna hear more vibes
When I said they remind me of Jedi Mind tricks I meant in content (historical, religious references)triky wrote:u got some links... saw AOTP and jus allah recently, am feeling a UK version of this...TRU_G wrote:Anyone heard
Triple Darkness - Anathema?
It's like early Jedi Mind Tricks, UKHH style
Fucking sick album, one of my favourite CD's of this year
some audio here
http://www.suspect-packages.com/artists ... RKNESS.php
- maccoretti
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^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^PhoBic wrote:if u listen to boy better know, fire camp, roll deep etc, u will notice that their "freestyling" is just repeating the same stuff again and again, u cant make a whole track with just a few lyrics!
imo UKHH has loads more content compared to Grime, not just chattin about slewing and brapping and bigging up their endz, but each to his own...
Triple Darkness and especially Melanin 9. The Jon Phonics album is banging like butter on a biscuit as well.
strip it down, reveal the elements


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Corpsey wrote:The thing is, Wiley repeating a word again and again is more exciting and interesting than Jehst talking about how he'd like to slide up a rainbow into some clouds and swap metaphors with Zues above a multi storey carpark in the 'concrete dungeon' to me. Anyway, was Hip-Hop shit in the mid to late 80s when the flows were all A-B-C-D-E-F-G I am a dope MC? No, because the beats were live and the styles were exciting. The most boring hip-hop is the stuff with a rinsed out looped dusty jazz sample and some failed author with a monotone voice doing 40,000 syllables about how other MCs are rubbish, hip-hop is dead and he is 'sick like AIDS'.
Don't get me wrong some UKHH is good though.

Nailed it for me!
I love both and obviously have my dislikes with both genres, but to me grime is much more exiting as the bpm is more danceable and it usually has more of a sense of humour.. and i like the way it takes huge influence from hyped up dancehall (with the clashing and way the eskidances are etc..)
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