elgato wrote:
yeh i meant that you couldnt before the m-class were introduced, but i guess that was quite a while back now. plus you say it could be done anyway
Sidechaining has been possible for years in Reason. Using the Scream's auto CV output and some nifty routing of CVs
futures_untold wrote:
Reasons I dislike Reason 4.
I find the R4 sequencer over complicated, bloated and a drag to use...
Extra lanes per track are genius.. Automation is simple, just alt + left click on the nob, slider ot button you wish to automate and a lane is automatically created in the seq, what could be easier? Keyboard shortcuts are there for a reason, you can navigate around Reason 4s seq very quickly if you just learn a few simple keys. The shift, ctrl and alt keys bring so much efficiency to your mouse clicks it's criminal not to use them.
futures_untold wrote:
Thor looks like poo (literaly), and is too small and fiddly.
I happen to think it looks ok, admitedly not the pretiest synth around but its logically layed out and can make fat sounds if you know what you're doing.
futures_untold wrote:
I was majorly dissapointed when I found out that only the 3rd filter can be used as an insert effect for other devices. Thor has 3 filters ffs, Malstrom lets you use both available filters as an insert, why doesn't Thor allow the same?!
Not true m8, you can run any sound through any of Thor's filters together or individually using the mod matrix, so long as everything is contained in a combinator. If the sound source is outside a combinator then yes, you can only route audio through filter 3.
futures_untold wrote:
Although it is only a slight annoyance, in R4, one has to switch off the preset button in the prefereneces menu so the devices don't load up with a stupid patch by default...
Wow, that is really getting picky lol. All programs have little features that need turning on or off for the user's preference, that's why these preferences menus exist, the clue's in the name lol.
futures_untold wrote:
Other synths have better featuresets than Thor. (Z3ta+, Absynth, FM8, Massive, & all the Rob Papen Synths for starters). For me they look nicer and are easier to use. They have mod matrixes, stepsequencers, fatter filters, x/y controllers, multi stage envelopes, more built in effects and even bloody lfo control over lfo's! Some of them further allow you to use your own samples as the oscillator source! (Z3ta+, Absynth, Albino 3)
You cannot compare Thor to VST synths like the 1s you mention. VST synths are usually designed to be a 1 stop shop for FX, Filters, Osc etc.... Thor isn't. Thor is designed essentially as a sound generator to be used within the Reason environment. Yes they added 2 simple FX, the delay and the chorus, probably more as an after thought than anything else. Reasons true equivelent to a VST synth is the Combinator!!!. And using the combinator with the new units offered in Reason 4, clever CV routing, automation and matrix programming I know for a fact you can create sounds that are in everyway as deep, layered, fat & warm sounding as anything those synths you mentioned can acheive. I know this cos I have, and yes I have used most of the vst synths in that list, so I have a very good idea of what they are all capable of.
Running samples through a synth? no problem, use the nn19 or nnxt in a combinator, wire it into any of the 3 Thor filters, Done!!.......next
...... lol
Reason 4 is a great upgrade and well worth the money. As for whether it can stand its own against DAWs like cubase and logic. It's how you use the program that counts, producers who are arguably better than all of us put together use it so why moan or compare??
THE most important thing, is to learn AS MUCH as you can about your chosen software and to STOP listenin to ppl who say the tools you're using are shit.. Keep creating bangers and proove em wrong!!
I am being picky lol 
