Swine Flu

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:28 am

alien pimp wrote:eh?

Exactly.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:28 am

Genevieve wrote:Find me a random forum where I can pretend to be a crazed christian nut who has 'had it up to here with these flying pigs', misinterpreting 'swine flu' as 'swine flew' where I will go on long rants about the dangers of modern science for creating flying pigs in Mexico that have since crossed the oceans by exclaiming 'YOU JUST HAD TO PLAY GOD, DIDN'T YOU? YOU JUST HAD TO PLAY HIM'.

or not, stuff like that only works when it's funny

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:30 am

bandshell wrote:
Genevieve wrote:Find me a random forum where I can pretend to be a crazed christian nut who has 'had it up to here with these flying pigs', misinterpreting 'swine flu' as 'swine flew' where I will go on long rants about the dangers of modern science for creating flying pigs in Mexico that have since crossed the oceans by exclaiming 'YOU JUST HAD TO PLAY GOD, DIDN'T YOU? YOU JUST HAD TO PLAY HIM'.
or not, stuff like that only works when it's funny

It's not about the funny. It's about the reactions.

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:36 am

usually you make strong points, so i blame myself for missing the point this time and ask for clarifications

cyberneticghost · Post by **cyberneticghost** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:38 am

alien pimp wrote:keep these in mind for later reference:

WASHINGTON, April 27 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The American Meat Institute (AMI) urged the news media to cease inaccurate references to swine flu because they are creating confusion among the public.

"According to the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), North American Flu is a more accurate description of the virus that has affected people in North America," said AMI President J. Patrick Boyle.

Boyle referenced an OIE press release issued today which read, "The virus has not been isolated in animals to date. Therefore, it is not justified to name this disease swine influenza. In the past, many human influenza epidemics with animal origin have been named using their geographic name, e.g. Spanish influenza or Asiatic influenza, thus it would be logical to call this disease 'North-American influenza'".

Boyle stressed that pork is safe and consumers do not need to change their eating habits in the wake of this news. "Public health officials, including those from the World Health Organization and Centers for Disease Control, have made clear that pork is not a source of influenza. Consumers can continue to enjoy pork with confidence."

To read the full OIE statement, click here. http://www.oie.int/eng/press/en_090427.htm

Lessons from Sars which killed 860 of only 8600 cases and caused chaos with billions lost in S E Asia economy, global impact on travel and tourism, and disuption in many nations.

Reuters:
Experts agree the process for making vaccines is clumsy and outdated, but new and more efficient technologies are still a few years away.

At least 20 companies make flu vaccines including Sanofi Pasteur , Australia's CSL Ltd , GlaxoSmithKline Plc , Novartis AG , Baxter and nasal spray maker MedImmune, acquired by AstraZeneca Plc.

US health officials recommend that 261 million Americans - 85 per cent of the population - should be vaccinated against flu but a RAND Corp study in December showed only about a third of those who should have did get the vaccine.

Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1240867 ... :b24147630
The Food and Drug Administration authorized certain emergency uses of antiviral drugs and tests in connection with the swine flu outbreak, officials at the Department of Health and Human Services said.

The orders signed early Monday, called Emergency Use Authorizations, permit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to diagnose swine flu using a test that has yet to be formally approved by the FDA.

The test is available only in a few government laboratories, and will be used mostly to review samples sent by state or local health authorities. It isn't designed for widespread use at clinics or ports where travelers are screened.

Another authorization signed Monday allows physicians to give a widely used drug, Tamiflu, to children less than one year old. Tamiflu is not approved for such infants. The order includes FDA guidance to doctors on dosing levels for infants. Tamiflu is made by Roche Holding AG.

The third emergency authorization allows the inhalant Relenza, made by GlaxoSmithKline PLC, to be used in treating suspected cases of swine flu and dispensed to patients in hospitals.

The emergency authorizations signal the FDA's concurrence with the CDC's actions during the swine flu outbreak, which helps protect the government, doctors and hospitals from medical and legal challenges, as well as some liability claims.

Hey, take your logic and rationality elsewhere. This is the we are fucked thread. Apparently there was also an earthquake in Mexico city right after the outbreak. Is anyone else putting 2 and 2 together? GAME OVER MAN THE FUCKING WORLD IS COMING TO AN END. 2012 HAS COME EARLY!

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:45 am

i don't care

cyberneticghost · Post by **cyberneticghost** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:47 am

alien pimp wrote:i don't care

It was a joke. I am just not funny.

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:50 am

i know, just turned it against you and made you explain yourself

safe

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:50 am

King of smug

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:52 am

btw now you're in the sadistic position to bet your health, possibly life against a nutty conspirationist
my bet is: don't take any vaccine!

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:55 am

hackman wrote:
RaposaNegra wrote:this is all New World Order plans to eliminate population!
QFT

Why go to all that trouble when you can convince people that the best thing for the environment is for every one to limit how many children they can have volenterly? http://www.optimumpopulation.org/

raposanegra · Post by **raposanegra** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:24 am

metalboxproducts wrote:
hackman wrote:
RaposaNegra wrote:this is all New World Order plans to eliminate population!
QFT

Why go to all that trouble when you can convince people that the best thing for the environment is for every one to limit how many children they can have volenterly? http://www.optimumpopulation.org/

Because people are stupid and they are going to think: "Ah... just one more kid won't blow the planet!"

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:38 am

RaposaNegra wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:
hackman wrote:
RaposaNegra wrote:this is all New World Order plans to eliminate population!
QFT

Why go to all that trouble when you can convince people that the best thing for the environment is for every one to limit how many children they can have volenterly? http://www.optimumpopulation.org/
Because people are stupid and they are going to think: "Ah... just one more kid won't blow the planet!"

It wont.

cityzen · Post by **cityzen** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:20 pm

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:28 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
hackman wrote:
RaposaNegra wrote:this is all New World Order plans to eliminate population!
QFT

Why go to all that trouble when you can convince people that the best thing for the environment is for every one to limit how many children they can have volenterly? http://www.optimumpopulation.org/

how much time and resources you reckon they need to convince people of such thing, when they can't be convinced of much more reasonable and obvious things?
then compare your answer with the efficiency of mercury in vaccines and the diseases themselves, with the food lacking the nutritional elements but filled with carcinogens and so on
plus the actual policies also allow a selection, why keep alive unprofitable population?
also remember how slave owners use to kill the smart slaves and keep only the dumb strong ones?

hackman · Post by **hackman** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:37 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
hackman wrote:
RaposaNegra wrote:this is all New World Order plans to eliminate population!
QFT

Why go to all that trouble when you can convince people that the best thing for the environment is for every one to limit how many children they can have volenterly? http://www.optimumpopulation.org/

that would not work unless you had a completely totalitarian regime, like china
not getting into new world order stuff again, but the WHO, united nations, and many respected scientists have been banging on about population reduction for a while i think, can anyone validate that with some sources? cant find any

uncle bill · Post by **uncle bill** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:38 pm

CityZen wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:Absolute scare mongering. This will go the same way as avian flu.
What was quit sad and desperate was the governments advice to cover ones face when either sneezing or coughing. Yeah, coz we need lessons on manners from the fucking government dont we.We all learnt this when we were chilfren It's the actions of a government in it death throws trying to remain relevant.
^This. Bird flu, S.A.R.S, swine flu... even the war on 'terror'. Just a mass ploy to scare the general populous into freely giving up our civil liberties in the name of our 'protection'.
Mind you, it'll probobly work. Most people can't see the wood coz of the trees.

Erm, I don't think this is true.

The media have talked it up as more of a threat than is very likely but it's not a conspiracy - it's just the way the media works. The government has enough bad news to deal with at the moment what with rising unemployment and tax hikes and general malaise without convincing everybody they're going to die of flu!

NilsFG · Post by **NilsFG** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:02 pm

cyberneticghost wrote:It will be very similar to the 1918 Flu pandemic which wiped out an estimated 2.5 - 5% of the globe. On a side note, did you know that Darwin's theory has been proven wrong?

Meh, I don't care if Darwin is right or wrong, evolution is still the thing that has been going on for eternity for me.

missedthebus · Post by **missedthebus** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:05 pm

Uncle Bill wrote:
CityZen wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:Absolute scare mongering. This will go the same way as avian flu.
What was quit sad and desperate was the governments advice to cover ones face when either sneezing or coughing. Yeah, coz we need lessons on manners from the fucking government dont we.We all learnt this when we were chilfren It's the actions of a government in it death throws trying to remain relevant.
^This. Bird flu, S.A.R.S, swine flu... even the war on 'terror'. Just a mass ploy to scare the general populous into freely giving up our civil liberties in the name of our 'protection'.
Mind you, it'll probobly work. Most people can't see the wood coz of the trees.
Erm, I don't think this is true.

The media have talked it up as more of a threat than is very likely but it's not a conspiracy - it's just the way the media works. The government has enough bad news to deal with at the moment what with rising unemployment and tax hikes and general malaise without convincing everybody they're going to die of flu!

If anything this is working in favour of the government drawing media attention away from contentious policy or Westminster's failings.... that is until the media turn on the NHS.

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