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alien pimp wrote:

hurlingdervish wrote:its ridiculous you still trying to prove im some sort of dumb american who voted for bush when i said time after time

i know what he did, and it was wrong, theres nothing anyone on this forum can do to change that

nothing you can do to alter the course of government besides vote or write letters

nothing at all, besides terrorism and other immature acts

have you heard of boycott?

right but its harder when you consider how large the us is

theres no centralized city....

and people did protest, to no effect

they would hide bush and bring him through at random times

or cancel the event

the last thing anybody wants in america is to violently overthrow the government, because we know our army is too powerful for that

Holy sperm!

hurlingdervish wrote:

alien pimp wrote:

hurlingdervish wrote:its ridiculous you still trying to prove im some sort of dumb american who voted for bush when i said time after time

i know what he did, and it was wrong, theres nothing anyone on this forum can do to change that

nothing you can do to alter the course of government besides vote or write letters

nothing at all, besides terrorism and other immature acts

have you heard of boycott?

right but its harder when you consider how large the us is

theres no centralized city....

and people did protest, to no effect

they would hide bush and bring him through at random times

or cancel the event

the last thing anybody wants in america is to violently overthrow the government, because we know our army is too powerful for that

because people don't boycott shit for the sake of doing it right, they do it for immediate measurable effect... so when boycotting everything that's not proper and fair is going to be "kewl" we can hope to see effects. the right thing to do is not a motivation in itself

so they gotta do a sort of kewl media product called boycott, endorsed by a few kewl stars, and everybody will jump in. like they did with obama

hurlingdervish wrote:well its hard to tell which obama myth you are talking about when 60 percent of the people discussing this think hes evil or some sort of puppet

so many already? obamamania is not fashionable anymore? pussies not getting wet anymore at speaches and rallies?

anyway, i know of only one obama myth, the one created by media

hurlingdervish wrote: its "cool" to hate the us now it seems like based on bush's policies.

List of countries the USA has bombed since 1945:

China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Libya 1986
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991-2002
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Croatia 1994 (of Serbs at Krajina)
Bosnia 1995
Iran 1998 (airliner)
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 2001-02
Iraq 2003
Pakistan 2008




I think a seizable chunk of the world's population hated the USA long before Bush.

notice that those were under different presidents and policies.

which people voted for,

which is all anybody can do.

if you want to pull a Tienanmen square be my guest.

if you want to call up bono and angelina jolie to start a "save the world" fund be my guest.

but last time i checked im not a senator so i dont know why your trying to get me to say "alright man! im gonna go down to washington and say ' IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE' "because that wont accomplish anything. but i encourage you to fly out here and give it a go.

hurlingdervish wrote:notice that those were under different presidents and policies.

That's my point innit. People hating the US didn't start with Bush. Prolly won't end with him too.

if you want to pull a Tienanmen square be my guest.

I struggle to pull birds mate, let alone mass murder of protesting students.

if you want to call up bono and angelina jolie to start a "save the world" fund be my guest.

Good reply. I might ring Ghandi whilst I'm at it too.

but last time i checked im not a senator

No shit. You obviously didn't pass English class either, by the looks of things.

face it man theres absolutely nothing you can do about the US foreign policy except bicker on the internet about it

You're right.

Well that or a worker's revolution resigning capitalism and it's lackey imperialism to the dustbin of history.

To the barricades!

tr0tsky wrote:You're right.

Well that or a worker's revolution resigning capitalism and it's lackey imperialism to the dustbin of history.

To the barricades!

i wouldn't mind capitalism dying--

burning man cities would pop up everywhere

never mind the riots, we got effigies

tr0tsky wrote:You're right.

Well that or a worker's revolution resigning capitalism and it's lackey imperialism to the dustbin of history.

To the barricades!

yeah, workers know better, they proved it already...
swaping one myth for another

how about a rise of merit, utility and truth against everything that's a fraud in the system? correcting all lies in our lives and the system should bring some progress, as history proved, living in a fairytale like communism, capitalism, socialism and all that crap is like living among the reptilians

alien pimp wrote:

tr0tsky wrote:You're right.

Well that or a worker's revolution resigning capitalism and it's lackey imperialism to the dustbin of history.

To the barricades!

yeah, workers know better, they proved it already...
swaping one myth for another

how about a rise of merit, utility and truth against everything that's a fraud in the system? correcting all lies in our lives and the system should bring some progress, as history proved, living in a fairytale like communism, capitalism, socialism and all that crap is like living among the reptilians

the majority are too blind to even consider they are being lied to. thats the problem. this whole system would not work if ppl realised somthings not right and demand the truth

precisely my point

and for that matter "bickering" on internet helped a lot improving things lately :]

spreading the word and doing your part of conscious living might take a while to change things, but i don't think there's anything else they're not already prepared to deal with, if anything

eg they won't be able to come on tv and say they represent a nation when 15% of the nation voted, but when they had a big majority voting they can pass any bullshit regulation saying that's what they've been voted for. and then the citizen takes the blame for his vote

so fucking stay home next voting, don't dance their tunes like you're a huge choreographic group for this hot new rapper called obama or his indie version in uk or whatever it might be the case

we take exams for all sorts of shit to get a job, a grade, we have to prove ourselves, but for them it's all about proving themselves best POLITICIAN, not best COMPETENCE. it's all about finding the best manipulative schemes, best media approaches and shit. that only qualifies them as best decievers

we need a system based on competence and good results, not on messing with rednecks' minds

what's wrong with people just being aware enough to mention things?

so what if people are powerless?

do you expect them to blind themselves to the truth or lack of just because they have no chance?