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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:38 pm
by erra
Should never of done it, Sincere is untouchable..
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:17 pm
by string
NERO - Dan wrote:String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:
What is a wobble?
You've made dnb for long enough, i know you know what it is!
Well I'd say its usually a square wave with a 'squeltchy' resonant lfo on it playing a pattern that accentuates the feeling of wobbling around. I think what you're doing is confusing lfo with wobble. Or do you think that synthesizers should start replacing lfo with the word 'wobble'?
yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it
hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.
wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:34 pm
by dubstee
Technical knowledge does not guarantee the ability to make good music.
Quite liked the Streets remix in a commercial trance guilty pleasure kind of way, but this is one a travesty.
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:46 pm
by dubstee
FairiesWearBoots wrote:Nero is a 'name/face' and Blackdown is a 'name/face' and I feel this should be off the board
Blackdown is a commentator therefore he comments.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:48 am
by rob sparx
String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:String wrote:
You've made dnb for long enough, i know you know what it is!
Well I'd say its usually a square wave with a 'squeltchy' resonant lfo on it playing a pattern that accentuates the feeling of wobbling around. I think what you're doing is confusing lfo with wobble. Or do you think that synthesizers should start replacing lfo with the word 'wobble'?
yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it
hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.
wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune
There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!
So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:56 am
by deamonds
dubstee wrote:Technical knowledge does not guarantee the ability to make good music.
ive got a streets vs zomby bootlegg wheich is alot..
agree with said statement entirely, case point, burial
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:02 am
by dazid
DJ VK - SNAKEBITE ENT. wrote:To be honest, the intro. is quality. He's done a good job with the intro.
The rest of the tune however, I'm definitely not feeling.
Sorry mate.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:35 am
by dubstee
Rob Sparx wrote:There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!
So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit
When people are talking about wobble in this thread I think they are referring to the triplets bass pattern, which is as overused as LFO lines in some parts of dubstep at the moment (and for the past god knows how long).
Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:36 am
by bandshell
People are always going to rip off something good, doesn't matter how old it is.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:46 am
by dubstee
bandshell wrote:People are always going to rip off something good, doesn't matter how old it is.
You'd think that when planning a rip off of another tune you'd try to pick one that hasn't been ripped off 1000 times already? But then I guess these wobble/triplet producers don't have much imagination.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:01 am
by string
Rob Sparx wrote:String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:
Well I'd say its usually a square wave with a 'squeltchy' resonant lfo on it playing a pattern that accentuates the feeling of wobbling around. I think what you're doing is confusing lfo with wobble. Or do you think that synthesizers should start replacing lfo with the word 'wobble'?
yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it
hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.
wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune
There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!
So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit
nah you got me wrong, i said DECENT producers should stay away from wobble
and as for haunted, well, i prefer the flip side
dubstee wrote:
Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.
pretty much sums it up
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:38 am
by tommatee
String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:
hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.
wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune
hahaha This!
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:57 am
by duck
don't really get this... how does a remix "ruin" the original tune.
if you wanna listen to the Nero remix cool, if you don't, get the original out and ignore the Nero version. problem solved.
you can sort me out the cash later, yeah?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:05 pm
by rob sparx
String wrote:Rob Sparx wrote:String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:String wrote:
yeah I think it should be replaced with the word 'wobble', just so that all good producers know to keep the fuck away from it
hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.
wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune
There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!
So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit
nah you got me wrong, i said DECENT producers should stay away from wobble
and as for haunted, well, i prefer the flip side
dubstee wrote:
Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.
pretty much sums it up
You should appreciate wobble as you are clearly a fucking retard in suggesting producers shouldn't use LFOs - fuck right off!!
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:23 pm
by string
Rob Sparx wrote:String wrote:Rob Sparx wrote:String wrote:NERO - Dan wrote:
hahahahahaha i cant believe you said that dude, that's the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this forum. Filters are a crucial part of subtractive synthesis, LFOs on filters equally as important and widely used since the dawn of synthesizers. You're basically writing off the majority of electronic music.
wow you exposed my lack of knowledge on production! but you'd think with all that knowledge you have you'd be able to make a decent tune
There's no wobble in this tune - if there was I think Nero would have recieved death threats by now lol!
So you think we should all stay away from wobble then - what about tunes like Mystikz Haunted then? You are full of shit
nah you got me wrong, i said DECENT producers should stay away from wobble
and as for haunted, well, i prefer the flip side
dubstee wrote:
Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.
pretty much sums it up
You should appreciate wobble as you are clearly a fucking retard in suggesting producers shouldn't use LFOs - fuck right off!!
why should i appreciate wobble, its fucking shit and is made by idiots, no soul, no substance
so fuck off yourself
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:24 pm
by subonedubstep
dubstee wrote:).
Haunted was made 4 years ago, not sure why people are still ripping it off tbh.
This!
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:47 pm
by dubstee
Rob Sparx wrote:You should appreciate wobble as you are clearly a fucking retard in suggesting producers shouldn't use LFOs - fuck right off!!
Missing the point here I think Rob... the complaint isn't about using LFOs per se, it's the ubiquitous trend of using a mid range synth line with a simple low pass cutoff LFO on it, over the top of a sub and a half step beat. Or just a triplets synth/sub line with the same sort of beat, as in this remix. It's SUCH a cliche, and it's SO unimaginative. People are more than justified in rallying against it.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:53 pm
by .rudetone.
stanton wrote:Even the last DMZ seemed to be full of tunes with that generic dnb kick drum build up to generic drop (duh-duh-duh-duh-duhduhduhduhduhduhduhduh----drop), each to their own and all that but isn't it all getting a bit fucking dull and predictable now?
Noticed this a lot and yes, it is getting VERY fucking dull and predictable now...to the point that I am sick of a lot of 'Dubstep'.
Don't mind that Nero remix, nothing special but not worth a slating..and I find the oldies kicking off about it quite funny.
duck wrote:don't really get this... how does a remix "ruin" the original tune.
It doesn't
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:53 pm
by bandshell
lol some intense hating in this thread now, seems to getting out of hand.
I suggest everyone go off and write a haiku, maybe have a sandwich and a cup of tea. (This statement can be as patronizing as you want
)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:13 pm
by nakedlunch
bandshell wrote:
I suggest everyone go off and write a haiku,
Trying to Remix Sincere
Is like picking up a turd
From the clean end.