this chainsaw sound in hundreds of tunes right now...

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seckle this thread is waste and you know it.




tunes stand alone IMO.

[seckle]

seckle this thread is waste and you know it.




tunes stand alone IMO.

no, i don't know it.

[wooda916]

You've all made good points, and here i am with a release in my signature that is most definitely chainsaw bass.

When i started producing dubstep, i had an idea of what it was, and I wanted to validate that claim, so i produced dubstep that was similar to what i had heard from other producers, and in other dj sets.
I suppose i was trying to clone a sound, because, I liked the sound, and i wanted to hear more. I wanted to be able to "do" that sound, and i wanted to get somewhere with my music. You'd be amazed at the reaction people give you when you make a chainsaw bass tune.

So time passes, and i see more and more of these chainsaw bass tunes, and i realize that the only way im going to get my music signed as an artist, is by making these tunes that people want to hear. so i make some, and i get signed to some record labels, and my chainsaw bass tunes get played, and people rave to them.

But i've felt, for a while that im just going through the motions when i make a tune. I've got a formula and its stale. It's boring and im uninspired by what im doing. There is no "hard" when all there is is hard, right? So i decide to do something different, and im experimenting with other sounds.

What I've found, is that to go off on your own and make something original is HARD. Music is about communicating feelings and thoughts that there are no words for, as far as im concerned, and it's hard if you've spent most of your time thinking you had nothing to say. It's difficult to write from your heart and write what you believe in if you've never given yourself an opportunity to listen.

Philip Glass says that music isn't something you "make", but instead, it's always there. Music is an underground river - always flowing, and always changing. it's always playing in the background. Your job, as a producer, or composer, or trashcan drumset player, or whatever, is to listen to that music, and write down what you hear.

These days, I write what i hear. I have begun to have personal relationships with my songs, where if i try and make them something they're not, it becomes difficult, because the message is muddled, and i have to take a step back, let go, and listen to what the song wants to be and then write it down.

I have quite a few new songs these days, and most dubstep labels aren't interested in them, but really who cares? im being true to myself, and my artistic vision. either people will come around or they wont, but i like what im doing, and i know these songs are good - because i made them with a truth in my heart that cannot be taken away from me. I made them with my own unique vision, and i wrote down what I heard when i listened to that underground river, not what i heard in the club, on the radio, or in the record store. a few of these tunes, by the way, are on my myspace in my signature. im not plugging my shit, but if people want to compare what i've been doing to what im doing now, they're welcome to.

I think it's great that theres this chainsaw bass world, thats driving so many artists away from "dubstep". these artists are making music without a name and staying true to themselves, wandering around in the night on their own, no longer under the umbrella of a genre. maybe, if they're really lucky, and they listen, they'll get to hear who the fuck they really are and have something unique to share with people.

to that.

[86.]

Misk:

that post really hits home....(minus the chainsaw bit). but that just fired up the engine...can't wait to go home and finish some tunes.

[16bit]

is going meeeeaaaaarrrr vowowvowvowvwowowow NIIIIEWWWWW BIT CRUSH BIT CRUSH

we all like a bit of it mixed into a night out, but the problem now is that its way beyond the random tunes placed into a set. there's radio shows out there (naming them is not important) were you can hear a good 50 minutes of chainsaws in a 2 hour show.

even back during the half step sound days, when loads of people sounded like loefah, it wasn't 50 minutes of halfstep in a two hour set. it was always mashed up textures. if you go back and listen to youngsta rinse sets from 2004 or even slaughter mobs sets from 2004, its mostly a mix of sounds from halfstep to breaks to 2step to dark UKG. all sorts. mutations of the sound are healthy and always happen naturally, but extremes of any one thing makes the whole thing less dangerous and then very easy to package.

Int, It's all about variety, trends are trends. I doubt that it will last. Everytime something is recycled, it's degraded, a percentage of it's value is lost. And as the value is lost, the demand recedes.

Innovation x Diversification = Happy Me.

[sequethin]

seckle this thread is waste and you know it.




tunes stand alone IMO.

no, i don't know it.

fwiw seckle, I'm glad this discussion was started. Sure it's dead to the point where I'm discussing the thread in the thread, but there are some intelligent points being made and if having a discussion about music is a waste then we should all unplug our keyboards...

thanks, and maybe I'll pop into a future thread

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seckle this thread is waste and you know it.




tunes stand alone IMO.

no, i don't know it.

anyone could say that ANY sound is overplayed and make a thread about it.

and this same thread has been discussed hundreds of times anyways(chainsaw/wobble etc)

like mala said, there need not be genre names (hence why they created DMZ, to have the DMZ sound)

so why worry when your "genre" listing on beatport has a bunch of trash tunes?? every DJ has HIS OWN sound, and it should be treated as such. so stop trying to protect your genre name and instead push positive soundsystems forward!! man!! u already know that, i dont think i need to tell you that.

there are obviously people who like the chainsaw, so why not let them enjoy it??

i myself am getting quite sick of the heavy tunes aswell, but its not really a big deal, cuz if u stay diverse, then everything has its place.

its all about staying diverse.

and YES there are millions of producers making shit chainsaw wobble tunes with no emotion or soul, and i dont buy them and i dont play them.

etc etc etc etc waste thread...do work.

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the only thing that i think is SHIT is when people make tunes where they think they are showcasing their synth sound which actually just sucks, and the tune doesnt even have any musical merit as its only intended to jock a shitty synth sounds nuts and not relay any emotion.

[seckle]

so why worry when your "genre" listing on beatport has a bunch of trash tunes??

1. i'm not worried about whats selling on beatport.
2. i'm not worried about genre protection.

i'm just voicing my opinion about pushing the envelope, and progression of the sound. if 80 tunes on itunes sound the same or use the same set of recognizable sounds, yes that's a good thing for itunes, and for sales and money.

however, its the worst thing ever for musical creativity, because its like making music using connect the dots logic. where's the danger? where's the experimentation? we live in a world where entertainment is being boxed and packaged like hamburgers. i'll always remain on the side of people thinking different, and not following the pack.

[_boring]

yea man, definitly, tons of shit tunes. agreed.

my reaction: oh well

[mdc_1990]

interesting thread and opinions and shit. There's a place for everything but it's definitely down to the tunes individually, and what else is happening with them, not just the "chainsaw bass" alone. However, personally, I'd rather see some innovation and variation in a set. Play and listen to what you like

[dubsteptim]

it sucks. but you gotta dig for good stuff and stuff that stands out. at least thats what i try to do.

[kay]

shouldn't we be asking for more depth, and against further imitation?

Always

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shouldn't we be asking for more depth, and against further imitation?

Always

producers will do what they want. DJ's will play what they want.

support quality in both instances, and ignore shit, in both instances.

done and done.

[seckle]

support individuality. support new ideas. if there's a fork in the road, and 500 people go one way, and 10 go another, which way would you go?

[16bit]

support individuality. support new ideas. if there's a fork in the road, and 500 people go one way, and 10 go another, which way would you go?

I'd survey both routes and decide which one i want to go down.

I certainly wouldn't follow the 10 just to try and be different. That's exactly the same as following the 500 because of it's popularity.

[16bit]

i'm sure there'd be a much nicer 3rd route anyway.

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[asa]

It's all about the third route....

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i so wanna make a mock thread

"POLL: that snare drum sound used in hundreds of tracks these days"

"everyone uses a snare mate, sample somone knocking on your skull that is the way forward"