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Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:52 pm
by parson
the dramatic style is heavily influenced by the melodramatic stylings of his hero douglas sirk. ali is a remake of a sirk film, and ever since fassbinder found sirk, he's completely copped his style. it's a cool style. sirk is a boss.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:27 pm
by vishes
Just seen this for the first time. Absolutely brilliant.
Could someone maybe explain the title to me btw? Maybe I just missed something, I don't know, but I don't really get it.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:30 pm
by magma
vishes wrote:Just seen this for the first time. Absolutely brilliant.
Could someone maybe explain the title to me btw? Maybe I just missed something, I don't know, but I don't really get it.
I always figured it was from "as queer as a clockwork orange" which used to be a relatively common phrase, but has largely fallen out of use... but Wikipedia seems to think there might be more to it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange#Title
The Hive Mind wrote:Burgess gave three possible origins for the title:
That he had overheard the phrase "as queer as a clockwork orange" in a London pub in 1945 and assumed it was a Cockney expression.¹ In Clockwork Marmalade, an essay published in the Listener in 1972, he said that he had heard the phrase several times since that occasion. He also explained the title in response to a question from William Everson on the television programme, Camera Three in 1972, "Well, the title has a very different meaning but only to a particular generation of London Cockneys. It's a phrase which I heard many years ago and so fell in love with, I wanted to use it, the title of the book. But the phrase itself I did not make up. The phrase "as queer as a clockwork orange" is good old East London slang and it didn't seem to me necessary to explain it. Now, obviously, I have to give it an extra meaning. I've implied an extra dimension. I've implied the junction of the organic, the lively, the sweet – in other words, life, the orange – and the mechanical, the cold, the disciplined. I've brought them together in this kind of oxymoron, this sour-sweet word."[3][4] However, no other record of the expression being used before 1962 has ever appeared.[5] Kingsley Amis notes in his Memoirs (1991) that no trace of it appears in Eric Partridge's Dictionary of Historical Slang.
His second explanation was that it was a pun on the Malay word orang, meaning "man." The novel contains no other Malay words or links.[5]
In a prefatory note to A Clockwork Orange: A Play with Music, he wrote that the title was a metaphor for "...an organic entity, full of juice and sweetness and agreeable odour, being turned into a mechanism."[5]
In his essay, "Clockwork Oranges," ² Burgess asserts that "this title would be appropriate for a story about the application of Pavlovian or mechanical laws to an organism which, like a fruit, was capable of colour and sweetness." This title alludes to the protagonist's positively conditioned responses to feelings of evil which prevent the exercise of his free will. To reverse this conditioning, the protagonist is subjected to a technique in which violent scenes displayed on screen, which he is forced to watch, are systematically paired with negative stimulation in the form of nausea and "feelings of terror" caused by an emetic medicine administered just before the presentation of the films.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:44 pm
by vishes
Ah I see, thanks for the info! I'm not from the UK and thus had never heard of anything like 'clockwork orange' to begin with, but this clears things up

Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:48 am
by Static D0gma
A Clockwork Orange has to be my favorite movie.
Anyway, I recently watched "War Horse". It's actually pretty damn good. Interesting concept to.
The Horse, which IS the main character is basically passed on from character to character, each with a different story. Although some of these are cliche, and it doesn't stay with one character, or set of characters long enough for you to really have much sympathey for them.
The combat scenes are impressive, you really get a feel for how it is in "No Man's Land". (The movie takes place during WW1), although I wish there was more gore (The Situation of them going out of the trenches on the sound of a whistle, and then alot of them getting mowed down by machine-gun fire before even getting a few yards reminds me of Saving Private Ryan)
It's one of the only good movies I've really liked this year, beside the prequel to John Carpenter's The Thing.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:28 am
by vishes
Texas Killing Fields
Kinda had a hard time staying focused with this one. Don't know why exactly, but it just didn't really manage to hold my attention.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:03 pm
by tobi
watched Shame, pretty intense movie
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:31 pm
by BonerJams04
Cabin in the Woods.
Was very skeptical going in, but holy fuck, it was amazing.
A unicorn makes a cameo.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:42 am
by AllNightDayDream
Thoroughly enjoyed. Real as fuck.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:04 pm
by vishes
Blow
Really fucking good.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:30 pm
by Static D0gma
Is anyone going to go check out The Raven?
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:36 pm
by hutyluty
Pirates in an adventure with scientists
funniest film ive seen all year, no lie
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:39 pm
by Electric_Head
Ghost Rider 2 - so so Shit
Meeting evil - not so shit
The divide - meh but not shit, fell short of what it could have been

Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:00 am
by spire
hutyluty wrote:
Pirates in an adventure with scientists
funniest film ive seen all year, no lie
Yeah im waitin to see that over here, lol. Gotta love Aardman.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:02 pm
by wormcode
Saw this yesterday. Yeah one of the better comedies lately for sure. I never liked Don Cheadle though, ever since Boogie Nights I just find him annoying for some reason. Didn't mind him here actually.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:06 pm
by parson
cheadle is amazing in boogie nights
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:35 pm
by noam
boogie nights is amazing in general
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:25 am
by wub
noam wrote:boogie nights is amazing in general
As is Cheadle except when he tries to do an English accent.
Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:46 pm
by Viineri
Decent.
Is it me or does Ben Foster look a bit like Hatcha?

Re: Secret Ninja Movie Club (aka what have you watched latel
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:49 pm
by wobbles
Hes got a home plate face