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wub wrote:Very angry young lady - http://twitter.com/#!/SandraCoxe

"BRAPBRAPBLUD TING AXE TING TING RICE PEA"

Wut.

wub wrote:Very angry young lady - http://twitter.com/#!/SandraCoxe

wow she is, she'd get it tho... "Standard procedures"

"loefah: those croydon girls have left me speechless"

truth

Rumours of it all kicking off at the out of town shopping centre near me tonight. They can fuck off, I wanna go skate!

nicenice wrote:Its easy to call it all mindless destruction but there must be something simmering underneath for people to torch buildings.

So they thought it through and decided that torching buildings was the best course of action??


My mum has been sent home from work in Croydon Town centre. Shops are closing at 3pm.

I think its gonna get worse before it gets better.

problem for me is, if they use rubber bullets, in peckham, brixton, streatham hackney etc etc the bullets being fired back won't be rubber

and politicians are over aware/over scared of this - if there are fed fatalities the magnitude of everything will go up tenfold

gage wrote:problem for me is, if they use rubber bullets, in peckham, brixton, streatham hackney etc etc the bullets being fired back won't be rubber

and politicians are over aware/over scared of this - if there are fed fatalities the magnitude of everything will go up tenfold

yeah what I was thinking. think this would, for lack of a better idiom, only fuel the fire. continue to stay safe all.

Whilst watching it all unfold last night I was just praying that no one got shot. When I saw Loefah's tweet about the man in Croydon (who it transpires died in hospital earlier) my heart sank. It's lucky nothing more happened then.

I see people on the news and politicians etc trying to be positive about having 16000 police on the streets tonight, and clearly more is better but I just can't help but think that this whole thing is just waiting for a spark.

At the moment although it's disgusting it's at least aimed at buildings and property and not directly at people (I really don't want to get into a discussion about it being directed at people via work/homes/etc - you know what I mean. There's always a tendancy at times like this to get the wrong end of the stick). If these people kick off again tonight with an added police prescence and someone gets hurt....lord help us all.

pulkpull wrote:it's at least aimed at buildings and property and not directly at people

People have been getting beat-up and robbed all over the show mate.

arktrix wrote:Rumours of it all kicking off at the out of town shopping centre near me tonight. They can fuck off, I wanna go skate!

Herd Medway was at it earlier.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-14455844

Police say that custody cells are now full..

what fucking idiots

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

pulkpull wrote:it's at least aimed at buildings and property and not directly at people

People have been getting beat-up and robbed all over the show mate.

Homes destroyed aswell, people living above shops.

Even homes on the same blocks as shops. Absolutely awful.

futures_untold wrote:Of course opportunities are seized rather than provided.

If someone is motivated, they will do what it takes to capitalise on the opportunities that they create for themselves.

To my mind, that generally doesn't mean waiting for employment 'opportunities' from others!

All I'm saying is that everyone is capable of finding ways and means to improve their lives without wanton destruction or resorting to crime and violence to advance.

I didn't say they had to wait for opportunities to be handed to them, I said the opportunities needed to exist in the first place. Not everyone in Croydon has any sort of opportunity to be successful or even comfortably off... it's not that they're not trying, it's been shown for generations that trying, especially by legal means just leads to benefit-level wages and shit conditions... there are only so many people to sell drugs to... not everyone can make the crack-dollar.

We need working class industry back... our country doesn't make anything meaning we're moving further and further from being globally relevant and competitive. We have large swathes of unemployed young people waiting to be trained and given rewarding careers. But all we do is pour money into the banks....

matthewcradduck wrote:

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

pulkpull wrote:it's at least aimed at buildings and property and not directly at people

People have been getting beat-up and robbed all over the show mate.

Homes destroyed aswell, people living above shops.

Sigh. I tried to clarify this in the original post, infact I literally wrote as much, because people always get the wrong end of the stick. I'm aware that people have been beaten up and I'm aware that homes have been destroyed. But this hasn't been the main intent so far, at least in my perception.

What I'm saying is that, for the most part, this rioting has been restricted to vandalism and the like. If someone gets hurt in a confrontation with the police, it could be a whole different ball game. People will be going out with the pure intention of causing harm to others. Currently the violence towards other people is a byproduct of the riot, not the main event.

EDIT: although no doubt some stnuc have been going out with that in mind already. what I'm saying is this just needs a spark for fucking mob warfare.

People keep on talking about rubber bullets, they still fire at the same velocity and will still kill you, police wont use them. Baton guns or CS gas is the next step of escalation of force and even baton guns can kill so i doubt they'll use them.

Birmingham-heads, I work near the city centre, people are being sent home, stuff has already kicked off, in Wolves and West Brom too. City Centre is gonna be on lock down from 3:30.

garethom wrote:Birmingham-heads, I work near the city centre, people are being sent home, stuff has already kicked off, in Wolves and West Brom too. City Centre is gonna be on lock down from 3:30.

Ty for the heads up, I'll walk home a different way

It's not starting to seem like a very clever idea to be picking up tonight.

Hmm.