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DJoe wrote:really? thats weird how do you distinguish between the two

Idk you just kinda know

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27372342

fun times ahead.

Never has there been a man who owned clubs in the two of the biggest leagues in the world that is less interested in sports.

having a more interested owner would be good, but you see so many clubs go in the shitter from getting bad owners these days...

England World Cup squad

Strikers

Rickie Lambert (Southampton)
Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)
Danny Welbeck (Manchester United)

Midfielders

Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) - captain
Ross Barkley (Everton)
Jordan Henderson (Liverpool)
Adam Lallana (Southampton)
Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
James Milner (Manchester City)
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)

Defenders

Leighton Baines (Everton)
Gary Cahill (Chelsea)
Phil Jagielka (Everton)
Glen Johnson (Liverpool)
Phil Jones (Man Utd)
Luke Shaw (Southampton)
Chris Smalling (Man Utd)

Goalkeepers

Joe Hart (Manchester City)
Ben Foster (West Bromwich Albion)
Fraser Forster (Celtic)


Stand-by list

Michael Carrick (Manchester United)
Andy Carroll (West Ham United)
Tom Cleverley (Manchester United)
Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC)
Jon Flanagan (Liverpool)
John Ruddy (Norwich City)
John Stones (Everton)

how has jon flanagan made the stand by list and not gibbs?
tbf i dont even rate luke shaw that much more than gibbs.

Much as I love Shaw, he does only have 45mins of international time.


Also think Oxade and Wilshire are a bit suspect, given their injuries this season.

yeah i agree with that on the especially with wilshere. dunno how fit chamberlain is at the moment but id be surprised if hes fully fit by the world cup. the england squad is so shit thouhg. if they dont go who will

I think Flanagan makes the stanby list because he covers left and right side being predominantly a right back before this season. I don't think he's good enough fwiw. That defence itself doesn't look great.

yeah the defence is fucking terrible. weve got no proper holding midfielders really either, no bite or stability apart from maybe gerrard, but thats not really enough

It's a team fully prepared to finish 3rd to Uruguay and Italy in the group stage.

worst defence ever (no melanin)

two out of the four strikers are just not up to this level.

midfield has the same issues as always and not bringing either carrick or barry is just a bit silly really

USMNT would kill to have any of those midfielders

England has a very good team imo, the defense is the weak point but jagielka and cahill are both pretty solid central defenders. i think you guys are going to get a surprise with england performance.

DJoe wrote:how has jon flanagan made the stand by list and not gibbs?

because he is much better than gibbs

Oh and the Revs beat top of the table Seattle 5-0 last night

ehbrums1 wrote:USMNT would kill to have any of those midfielders

Calling it now. England will not get further than the US at the world cup.

DiegoSapiens wrote:England has a very good team imo, the defense is the weak point but jagielka and cahill are both pretty solid central defenders. i think you guys are going to get a surprise with england performance.

DJoe wrote:how has jon flanagan made the stand by list and not gibbs?

because he is much better than gibbs

i dont think he is better
if flanagan is better than gibbs only marginally so
and surely gibbs makes up for that with 3 years experience playing in the champions league up against the best players in the world and hes has 3 caps for england whilst flanagan has none and loads more playing with loads of the england team in the u21s

tbh im happy hes not going. i just feel hes underated

i couldnt care less about england in the world cup. i dislike most of the players and i feel no affiliation to the country

i must be one of the few ppl out of my mates who usually supports the team playing england rather than england lol

garethom wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:USMNT would kill to have any of those midfielders

Calling it now. England will not get further than the US at the world cup.

this hinges on the US v Ghana game if we win then yeah i can see us maybe getting out of the group.

hubb wrote: barry is just a bit silly really

agree, one of the most underrated players in the premier. guy knows how to do his job perfectly

DJoe wrote:i feel no affiliation to the country

that has absolutely no relevance, its just a game, thats the good thing of football that you don't have to question why do you support your team