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ehbrums1 wrote: also yeah 50 mill torres is much worse than 35 carroll

No its not. Even though Torres is not a regular goal scorer. He has scored/assisted some of the most important goals for us. Scored the final goal against Barcelona in 2012, also got us the corner against Bayern Munich to equalise. He also scored an important goal against city earlier on this year.

What did Carroll do at Liverpool apart from jump in the air?

Mourinho took over a 3rd place team, spent 150 Million, and turned them into a 3rd place team

southstar wrote:He's on sky sports with Garry Neville

whoa stuff of nightmares, right?

I want to say the same thing about who becomes pundits in England as I wanted to say about your national team but that backfired too much. But anyway there's a certain segment of british football which I just want to eat da poopoo, is that unfair?
Sooooooo backwards thinking.

rockonin wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote: also yeah 50 mill torres is much worse than 35 carroll

No its not. Even though Torres is not a regular goal scorer. He has scored/assisted some of the most important goals for us. Scored the final goal against Barcelona in 2012, also got us the corner against Bayern Munich to equalise. He also scored an important goal against city earlier on this year.

What did Carroll do at Liverpool apart from jump in the air?

For 50 mill you could have 5 girouds lol its still a fucking awful signing

It's relative though, £50m back then before ffp didn't mean much to Chelsea, £35m was a huge amount of money for Liverpool

DJoe wrote: its still a fucking awful signing

In hindsight. Let's hope Costa is not going to flop as well if he comes.

ehbrums1 wrote: he was a placeholder and everyone kinda knew it tbf

also yeah 50 mill torres is much worse than 35 carroll

Don't think Liverpool fans should ever really consider Dalglish a placeholder. He got Liverpool to two Wembley finals winning one and provided us with a much better end to 2010/11 than we had a start.

Ultimately it wasn't enough and we've done well under Rodgers

rockonin wrote: No its not. Even though Torres is not a regular goal scorer. He has scored/assisted some of the most important goals for us. Scored the final goal against Barcelona in 2012, also got us the corner against Bayern Munich to equalise. He also scored an important goal against city earlier on this year.

What did Carroll do at Liverpool apart from jump in the air?

The question is not what the 50m man did for you but what 50m spent better may have. The final goal against Barca didn't count you were through anyway and now then you're listing winning a corner. We lost 18m on Carrol you'd get 10 if you're lucky for Torres.

scspkr99 wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote: he was a placeholder and everyone kinda knew it tbf

also yeah 50 mill torres is much worse than 35 carroll

Don't think Liverpool fans should ever really consider Dalglish a placeholder. He got Liverpool to two Wembley finals winning one and provided us with a much better end to 2010/11 than we had a start.

Ultimately it wasn't enough and we've done well under Rodgers

i think its safe to say tho that when he came back it was not a long term decision.

tbf both liverpool and chelseas transfer policies are terrible

i think liverpool have turned a corner with adopting the FSG model which has proven to be successful in other sports

It was initially only for the rest of the season then FSG announced a 3 year contract on the back of the first few months. Even if we wish to consider the first 5 months or whatever as a placeholder, I'd still refrain given his position in our clubs history, but that status changes once he's given 3 years.

I suspect FSG intended to have him only for the first 5 months and I also suspect that the reason for not sacking Hodgson earlier was that they wanted to get through the season, but the response of the players and the fans forced their hand.

DJoe wrote:tbf both liverpool and chelseas transfer policies are terrible

They have a policy?

ehbrums1 wrote:i think liverpool have turned a corner with adopting the FSG model which has proven to be successful in other sports

We signed Aspas, Alberto, ILori last summer none of which have contributed, our loan signings have been awful and the previous summers forward signing has just played the season at Sunderland. We are still pretty shit at transfers.

both clubs have a nearly endless list of shit transfers over the last few years

Buying for the future

tbf, torres was shit hot when chels signed him. his shitness surprised everyone, its a bit captain hindsight to say it was the worst decision ever at the time. I was scared as fuck thought he would smash it

murky21 wrote:tbf, torres was shit hot when chels signed him. his shitness surprised everyone

Na he wasn't, he was in horrible form at Liverpool when they sold him. For his shitness to be constant surprised everybody, but to be shit to begin with didn't surprise many cause he was already in a poor bit of form.

ehbrums1 wrote:Mourinho took over a 3rd place team, spent 150 Million, and turned them into a 3rd place team

Lol is that in $ or something? We spent closer to £100m and thats even including Zouma whos on loan. Mourinho probably spent a net amount of about £40m and turned a 3rd place team into a 3rd place team. Compared to some other teams around us, that ain't bad.

Muncey wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:Mourinho took over a 3rd place team, spent 150 Million, and turned them into a 3rd place team

Lol is that in $ or something? We spent closer to £100m and thats even including Zouma whos on loan. Mourinho probably spent a net amount of about £40m and turned a 3rd place team into a 3rd place team. Compared to some other teams around us, that ain't bad.

over-exaggerated bant m7

Suspected so as soon as I hit submit