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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:49 pm
by pkay
Phigure wrote:
pkay wrote:Please stop using the word trap. Its hip hop. There is no difference between it and.what drumma or any number of producers ha e done over the past decade
wtf is wrong with using a word to describe a very specific style of hip hop? everybody knows it's hiphop, but the term hip hop is broad as fuck, trap narrows it down so people know exactly what youre talking about.
Because its not new or specific. Its the same southern hip hop of the last decade repackaged for kids in skinny jeans and glasses without perscriptions

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:53 pm
by BonerJams04
the actor who plays junior seems like the nicest person in tht interview.

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:53 pm
by pkay
This last episode has renewed fears of a "shield" ending

Skylark coming to her wits end... tellin dea about Walt in exchange.for.protective custody and mike.coming after walt

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:55 pm
by deadly_habit

same interviewer with bryan

and also

aaron paul's audition tape (he almost didn'tget the part, and they almost wanted to kill him off early on)

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:56 pm
by deadly_habit
pkay wrote:This last episode has renewed fears of a "shield" ending

Skylark coming to her wits end... tellin dea about Walt in exchange.for.protective custody and mike.coming after walt
the shield prolly had one of the best endings to a series ever and it also was a series that never got stale

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:58 pm
by Phigure
it is pretty specific when you compare it against the whole of hip hop... YES, it's been around for a while, but hiphop also refers to a shitload of other stuff besides that

when i say hip hop, any number of things could come to mind to someone. afrika bambaataa? wu tang? dilla? public enemy? nwa? mos def? drake? lil wayne?

when i say trap, you know exactly that i'm talking about that southern style of hip hop, with crazy ass hi hats, pitched snares, 808ish kicks, maybe some brass, etc

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:03 pm
by Genevieve
deadly habit wrote:i dunno walt has been a classic dad to his kids, the provider and he's always been there for jr, in spite of him practically adopting jesse
Well yeah, if you want to control your kid, you're gonna be a 'good dad' to them and buy them expensive cars. And it can't hurt to rile them against a common enemy (Skylar) either.

And he didn't adopt Jesse, he's made efforts to control Jesse.
deadly habit wrote:his daughter he's had how much exposure to besides providing financially?
Well yeah, the sooner you get to them the easier it is to control them later.
deadly habit wrote:i mean one of the early season scenes that stuck with me when walt finally was getting balls was when he saw those kids picking on jr and he went after them
That's Walt, not Heisenberg.
Reverb wrote:i think walt loves his kids. his original motivation was so his kids would be financially ok.
Again, that's Walt's original motivation, not Heisenberg's. Heisenberg wants to be perfect dad because it's good for his ego. I'm sure he's still got love for his kids, but it's a different type of love than it used to be.

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:04 pm
by TheTornado
Genevieve wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
Genevieve wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
The Tornado wrote:All I'm saying is that people who say Walt is not abusive don't know from abusive personalities. I'm not defending Skyler - I agree that she was written to be annoying, abrasive, etc especially in seasons 1 and 2. She also has blood on her hands. But the justifications people make for hating her are more often than not rooted in misogyny rather than her as a person.
i could give a fuck bout the male female roles in society
if they were actual equals and misogyny happening walt would have hit her and she would hit back
atm its a battle of wits and psychological warfare which skyler used to dominate when walt was passive and before he became heisenberg with shit like sleeping with ted, and a lot of other manipulative head games
now that walt has the edge rooting for him is misogyny? come on now, he's the focus of the show
Skylar wasn't dominant, Walt was just a little bitch. There's a difference.
and when the roles reverse it's misogyny?
I think what tornado's implying is that sticking up for an abusive husband against a woman who's unwilling to let her family go down with him is rooted in misogyny.
Skylar isn't being abusive.. she's made mistakes, but she loves her kids. Walt doesn't care about anything but his ego. His kids are merely tools he uses to manipulate Skylar to FEED his ego.
Yup.

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:08 pm
by pkay
deadly habit wrote:
pkay wrote:This last episode has renewed fears of a "shield" ending

Skylark coming to her wits end... tellin dea about Walt in exchange.for.protective custody and mike.coming after walt
the shield prolly had one of the best endings to a series ever and it also was a series that never got stale

Yeah him at the desk looking at the gun is the best final frame of a TV show ever

He got dark and selfish about his family... like walt

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:09 pm
by pkay
Phigure wrote:it is pretty specific when you compare it against the whole of hip hop... YES, it's been around for a while, but hiphop also refers to a shitload of other stuff besides that

when i say hip hop, any number of things could come to mind to someone. afrika bambaataa? wu tang? dilla? public enemy? nwa? mos def? drake? lil wayne?

when i say trap, you know exactly that i'm talking about that southern style of hip hop, with crazy ass hi hats, pitched snares, 808ish kicks, maybe some brass, etc
I'd know exactly what you were talking about if you said southern hip hop

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:11 pm
by deadly_habit
we'll see how it ends on breaking bad

i always aw that last 5-6 mins as him reflecting on how much he fucked up, being in his own personal hell, becoming human again for a sec, then when those lights go out it seems like those emotions just turn back off and he's right back in vic fuck the world mackey mode
that scene was like a good 5-6 mins most of him breaking down
the shield is prolly my favorite show period, i loved the wire, but man the shield was and is my shit

(do not watch if you have never seen the shield) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihGapANcb2s this is that final 6 mins

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:21 pm
by pkay
deadly habit wrote:we'll see how it ends on breaking bad

i always aw that last 5-6 mins as him reflecting on how much he fucked up, being in his own personal hell, becoming human again for a sec, then when those lights go out it seems like those emotions just turn back off and he's right back in vic fuck the world mackey mode
that scene was like a good 5-6 mins most of him breaking down
the shield is prolly my favorite show period, i loved the wire, but man the shield was and is my shit

(do not watch if you have never seen the shield) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihGapANcb2s this is that final 6 mins
I found the.shield as dark for cops as the wire was for the inner city

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:25 pm
by deadly_habit
both top shows, just you don't hear as many people praise the shield compared to the wire

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:35 pm
by TheTornado
I need to watch The Shield. Just started The Sopranos. Great series.

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:40 pm
by pkay
deadly habit wrote:both top shows, just you don't hear as many people praise the shield compared to the wire
Think cause it was on fx before it blew up

BTW these scenes had me speachless


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACMzFXcq9Cw

Especially gardockis arrest

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w8tCCiul04U

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:38 pm
by noam
all the main characters are morally ambiguous, at any one point they do stuff which you hate and which you love, you root for them to succeed and you root for them to fall

thats the beauty of the writing, in this case for entertainment purposes

skylar can be fucking annoying but so can Walt when he starts rambling and blithering away, so can jesse, so can Walt Jr.

in fact the only character who's really stood up recently has been Hank, and he's been a top tnuc in the past.

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:13 am
by SCope13
pkay wrote:Skylark with the dental floss
The way she had that wrapped around her finger made me cringe.

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:26 am
by SCope13
And very off-topic, but seeing as it was mentioned: can someone please fill me in on the definition of trap music? Is it like Waka Flaka style beats or am I wrong?

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:28 am
by pkay
SCope13 wrote:And very off-topic, but seeing as it was mentioned: can someone please fill me in on the definition of trap music? Is it like Waka Flaka style beats or am I wrong?

Electronic artists doing dirty south beats... bloggers use Hood vocabulary to give new genre name for those scared to go to clubs in the Hood

Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:29 am
by BonerJams04
its whatever you want it to be