Anyone else kinda not looking forward to dubstep being big?

baileybwoy · Post by **baileybwoy** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:31 pm

Alright, I've been wanting to put my input in on this for awhile, and I've said it to alot of my friends already but this is my headspace on the topic...

The people I don't like getting into dubstep are strictly and only the scenesters. For example I got one buddy, who once I found Fabriclive 37 (the first actual mix I ever had to give out dubs of) told me he didn't like it, said it was shit. Thats cool, to each their own, but whenever we were around friends who did like it, he'd be like "Oh yah, but this track is dope" and so whenever I'd have tickets to a show (Rusko, Plastician, Skream, N-Type, Caspa, Babylon System, Excision are some of the names who have come through Calgary) I'd offer them to him and he'd say "Naw man, I kinda hate that shit" real passive agressive like.

So now about a month ago he hears In for the Kill, and everyone thinks dubsteps cool, so he's been its biggest fan this whole time. This is one of the guys I started spinning records with back in high school, now I'm gonna see him at the shows pretending he likes it so other people will see him like it, and he'll feel validated or some shit. Thats fucking whack.

So thats that, but otherwise how can it be a bad thing? If it's getting big because people like the music, and are feeding back into the energy it creates for them then its selfish for anyone to say 'This is my music so you can fuck off.' Its gonna globalize, you'll hear somebody in Rio Di Janeiro (sp?) making some latino soul wobble, or some cat in Africa incorporating that Tribal shit into 140 BPMs, then they'll build off eachother and grow into something we can't even comprehend.

This isn't the beginning of the end, we're lucky enough to be catching a new sound in it's infancy. I remember hearing my brother going through it with me when I was younger (way way to young to think about going to raves) how excited he was to be experiencing the same thing with jungle/drum'n'bass scene (And theres alot of parallels there, you can go through alot of the complaints with Rusko and his formulaic songs, and getting too big with the jump-up style and plug Aphrodites name right in there). I'm fucking stoked its getting big man, and if theres more people showing up to the shows and their gonna be all packed and grimy, thats good. Everyone in a room connects with that DJ and feeds into a collective energy as cheesy as that sounds, and I'm gonna be looking down more at the person who's got his back against the wall sipping on a rum and coke mean-mugging all these people who invaded 'his scene' because they weren't OGs or some shit than I am at the person with the tight jeans going ballistic front and center because this is his first time hearing dubstep.

Thats my 2 cents.

morro_e · Post by **morro_e** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:49 pm

i liked dubstep mostly because it gathered opened-minded people around itself back in the day. once i became a dj myself i didn tell all the hot chicks from the block to go and check me out playing. no shit. now as dubstep gets cool, i see shit people that come to nights from r'n'b and house clubs. fuck that i say. its bullshit. but yes, nothing lasts forever.

when time will come i'll just move onto next thing - and i wish the same to you

ill boding · Post by **ill boding** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:24 pm

dont worry about it, if it does go pop some other underground music will take its place i used to love hiphop that went downhill then i found dubstep

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:53 pm

I liked this thread better in 2006

don't realy get the worries, If we like something who cares how popular it is? Whether somethings huge or not, the ratio is still the same: 90% shit, 10% dope

tdbz · Post by **tdbz** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:36 am

Fractal wrote:I liked this thread better in 2006

don't realy get the worries, If we like something who cares how popular it is? Whether somethings huge or not, the ratio is still the same: 90% shit, 10% dope

hahaha! nice!

jinxkal · Post by **jinxkal** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:18 am

Fuck that, when the thing is small u want it to be big, ie setting up forum, radio and shit. But once its big u wanna complaint and go against it. WTF?

fused_forces · Post by **fused_forces** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:36 am

Why worry about these things.

Just let the music take its course.

sam_justice · Post by **sam_justice** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:05 pm

Dubloke wrote:I just hate how all my mates that used to rinse the fuck out of me (serious, everytime i saw them theyd go wub wub or just keep taking the piss out of dubstep) now like it and are going to shity indy nights and saying how good the dubstep was..... funny thing about indy kids is they say they're "independent" but they are probably the least independent group of people in the world...... THINK FOR YOUR SELF FOR FUCKS SAKE

+1

david_dub · Post by **david_dub** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:25 pm

Dubstep IS getting mainstream. It's turning into what house music is now within society because it has the same capability to be transformed onto a large spectrum of musical possibilities. I don't mind it getting big since what's getting recognized is the shitty wobble wonkyness that's mostly shit anyways (excluding a few artists I'll mention if asked) So dub on the radio? Bring it on.
My worries are with exploitation of what I'm into, the mnml garage (quality) dub. I hear more and more mnml-esque track come out which just turn out to be bland. So that really pisses me off but overall that's about it.
Dub Love.

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O yeah I just have to mention this but when dub is liked by the masses I'm gonna hate hearing people all say how they were there from the beginning when they were not! All you heads out there better keep those ppl in check. I hate that shit. Those who were to see it rise will end up being cast aside by the fakes.

Anywho good artists continually go back underground after a genres exposed to return making more experimental beats. I think this music has that character to evolve like that.

pure · Post by **pure** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:34 pm

Its only a good thing really aslong as there arent to many cheesy tunes released etc

david_dub · Post by **david_dub** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:41 pm

[quote="Pure"]Its only a good thing really aslong as there arent to many cheesy tunes released etc[/quote]

Dude cheese has already become the majority of songs that carry oscillation. After a quick glance through beatports top selling dubstep tunes I dont think the pop dub can become and more retardedly simple and repetitive to those who really know this music

youthful_implants · Post by **youthful_implants** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:45 pm

I cant wait til it hits the mainstream, gets top 20 radio play, so i can tell all my mates who dont like it I told you so and gloat indefinitely, rinse the fuck out of it, and become a millionaire.

piece of piss, and then some day people will be starting threads saying I killed dubstep/dubstep is dead etc etc

I mean I'm really looking forward to that.

computer rock · Post by **computer rock** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:48 pm

if mainstream acceptance means that more people use the words 'dub' and 'dubstep' interchangeably then i think it's probably a bad thing.

david_dub · Post by **david_dub** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:05 pm

[quote="computer rock"]if mainstream acceptance means that more people use the words 'dub' and 'dubstep' interchangeably then i think it's probably a bad thing.[/quote]

Dub doesn't have to refer to just dubstep. Look it up it's a type of style used in multiple genres like reggae, dancehall, ska and a grip others.

I've already heard plenty of hip hop songs on the radio in my area that resemble dubstep enough to be able to blend right in with a set. Its very interesting having watched this music grow and being a part in my areas development of dubstep and now see it on the radio?! I had been throwing up the hype of this musical phenomenon through my decks and my big mouth before it got big. Now I just gloat on having helped it grow because it's not often you see a genre sweep over clubs and charts in less than a year. Truly historical. I keep myself away from dubshows now in order to create my own diverted style and keep the music underground by not hearing whats "hot"

jheri · Post by **jheri** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:10 pm

Fused Forces wrote:Why worry about these things.

Just let the music take its course.

Exactly.

computer rock · Post by **computer rock** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:51 pm

David_Dub wrote:
computer rock wrote:if mainstream acceptance means that more people use the words 'dub' and 'dubstep' interchangeably then i think it's probably a bad thing.
Dub doesn't have to refer to just dubstep. Look it up it's a type of style used in multiple genres like reggae, dancehall, ska and a grip others.

It doesn't refer to Dubstep, it refers to Dub. If the two things were interchangeable we wouldn't have a need for the word Dubstep.

Anyone else kinda not looking forward to dubstep being big?

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