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Post by __________ » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:10 pm

rob sparx wrote:Make whatever t-shirts you like your still a sheep tool
:lol: If anything, YOU are the sheep in a massive herd chasing the current big thing, and I'm the lonely shepherd unintentionally leading the small flock of CDJ dislikers.
rob sparx wrote:If your referring to me taking a bit of influence from other producers then i dont see whats wrong with that long as the tunes are good
You're ripping off the current big thing...I'm ripping off RUN DMC.
Some people think your tunes are good...some people think my shirts are good.

But the fact of the matter is: lots of people think both your tunes and my shirts are shit; so don't try getting on your high horse mate. I'm not.
rob sparx wrote:childish
I'm 20. I'm allowed to be childish if I want to. You're a grown man, so why don't you try acting like one?
You could school me on mixdowns, but I could school you on your grammar and punctuation...so don't try being snide and taking the piss out of me for making a t-shirt which you don't like.
All people are equal...all DJing formats are not.

Understand I'm not trying to get one up on you, but if you personally attack me, triple A-list superstar dubstep (C)DJ/producer or not, I'll stick up for myself.
deamonds wrote:yea £10 bag how did you mix that mix? have you all those tunes on dub? if not then it can only have been through ableton, (as you hate cdj's) which are even fucking worse than CDJ's..
I've saved up and cut most of them to dub now but I did the original Joker mix in FL.
99% of the studio vinyl mixes I hear would benefit from a pre-planned tracklist. I like to get my studio mixes 100% perfect - to a commercial standard. You just can't do that with decks unless your name is Youngsta.
I can't do it with decks anyway because I had to sell my mixer and turntables last year.
When I'm playing out its a performance and I wouldn't dream of using a disposable format :)

Bottom line for me is: CDJ rewinds sound disgraceful.
If you're playing tunes which are good enough to rewind, then use vinyl for fuck's sake!

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Post by jairiddim » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:05 pm

vinyls dead lol

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Post by Rowdy » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:13 pm

If I'm out and I hear a massive tune get dropped I'm not going to stop and look at what the DJ's using before I start raving hard.

Having said that, these t-shirts are obviously a bit of banter. If I see someone out and about wearing a 'I Facebook'd Your Mum' t-shirt I don't take it seriously/personally, and I don't see that this CDJ's thing is any different. Don't buy them if you don't like them.
Not much point getting worked up over it.

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Post by rob sparx » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:37 pm

£10 Bag wrote:
rob sparx wrote:Make whatever t-shirts you like your still a sheep tool
:lol: If anything, YOU are the sheep in a massive herd chasing the current big thing, and I'm the lonely shepherd unintentionally leading the small flock of CDJ dislikers.
rob sparx wrote:If your referring to me taking a bit of influence from other producers then i dont see whats wrong with that long as the tunes are good
You're ripping off the current big thing...I'm ripping off RUN DMC.
Some people think your tunes are good...some people think my shirts are good.

But the fact of the matter is: lots of people think both your tunes and my shirts are shit; so don't try getting on your high horse mate. I'm not.
rob sparx wrote:childish
I'm 20. I'm allowed to be childish if I want to. You're a grown man, so why don't you try acting like one?
You could school me on mixdowns, but I could school you on your grammar and punctuation...so don't try being snide and taking the piss out of me for making a t-shirt which you don't like.
All people are equal...all DJing formats are not.

Understand I'm not trying to get one up on you, but if you personally attack me, triple A-list superstar dubstep (C)DJ/producer or not, I'll stick up for myself.
deamonds wrote:yea £10 bag how did you mix that mix? have you all those tunes on dub? if not then it can only have been through ableton, (as you hate cdj's) which are even fucking worse than CDJ's..
I've saved up and cut most of them to dub now but I did the original Joker mix in FL.
99% of the studio vinyl mixes I hear would benefit from a pre-planned tracklist. I like to get my studio mixes 100% perfect - to a commercial standard. You just can't do that with decks unless your name is Youngsta.
I can't do it with decks anyway because I had to sell my mixer and turntables last year.
When I'm playing out its a performance and I wouldn't dream of using a disposable format :)

Bottom line for me is: CDJ rewinds sound disgraceful.
If you're playing tunes which are good enough to rewind, then use vinyl for fuck's sake!
Ooh check her!

What are you really expecting ppl to say when you've posted a DIGITAL mix on here (obviously you experience the same problem finding money for dubplates as I do) and your selling t-shirts slagging off digital? Some appreciate that whilst vinyl has a better sound theres some shithot tricks you can do on cdjs that more than make up for its shitty rewinds.

Whats wrong with using vinyl and cdj anyway, works for Skream and Benga?

And whats not 'disposable' about dubplates which are only good for 50 or so plays?

BTW are you Will Blaze?

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Post by borrowed » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:49 pm

£10 Bag wrote:
rob sparx wrote:but I could school you on your grammar and punctuation...so don't try being snide and taking the piss out of me for making a t-shirt which you don't like.
All people are equal...all DJing formats are not.
You know, if you didn't splice every other sentence with ellipses, you might be right. :]

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Post by HamCrescendo » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:57 pm

this may be childish, stupid, elitist etc..




but its fucking fantastic publicity, I applaud you mate. (think the idea of it is funny, even if I wouldt buy the shirt anyway)

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Post by Pistonsbeneath » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:58 pm

personally i fucking love using elipses...they make it easy to make a point.

fuck you non elipse people
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Post by kwun-tings » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:42 pm

im gonna get a 'fuck ellipses' tshirt
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Post by __________ » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:47 pm

rob sparx wrote:your selling t-shirts slagging off digital?
Nah, check it again - it says fuck CDJS. Digital is fine if you use it properly, but CDJs are in my opinion a cop-out. They don't do anything more than vinyl turntables. Yeah you can use inbuilt FX and looping and shit, but FX don't constitute reason enough to use them in my opinion. Some mixers have inbuilt FX which can do the same tricks with a phono input.
rob sparx wrote:theres some shithot tricks you can do on cdjs that more than make up for its shitty rewinds.
I highly disagree. A good tune doesn't need 'shithot tricks' anyway.
rob sparx wrote:And whats not 'disposable' about dubplates which are only good for 50 or so plays?
Unless your name is Jason Transition or Chefal, you can't re-burn 100 copies of your music for cheap. I've accidentally left CDs at gigs. I just re-burnt them again. If I left my dubs at a gig I'd shit my pants.
rob sparx wrote:BTW are you Will Blaze?
No. Are you? :D
Pistonsbeneath wrote:personally i fucking love using elipses...they make it easy to make a point.

fuck you non elipse people
Yeah...exactly...its like a little pause...which really...emphasises...the next word...and is at the same time...quite...patronising...if done...correctly...

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Post by rez pez » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:56 pm

cool shirt bro, have you heard of dubstep? its coolness is right up your alley

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Post by Wolverine » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:08 am

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Post by rob sparx » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:17 am

£10 Bag wrote:
rob sparx wrote:your selling t-shirts slagging off digital?
Nah, check it again - it says fuck CDJS. Digital is fine if you use it properly, but CDJs are in my opinion a cop-out. They don't do anything more than vinyl turntables. Yeah you can use inbuilt FX and looping and shit, but FX don't constitute reason enough to use them in my opinion. Some mixers have inbuilt FX which can do the same tricks with a phono input.
Ok glad u cleared that one up you think its ok to use serato but not cdjs bcos serato looks more like real vinyl? I use cdjs bcos they don't fuk up like serato can do, don't think an audience really gives a toss what format your playing when you've got tunes jumping all over the shop or playing backwards etc never had those problems with cdjs yet

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Post by __________ » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:09 am

Are you sponsored by Pioneer or something? Is your mum actually a CDJ?
It's 'OK' to use whatever you want, pard. These shirts don't say "FUCK ROB SPARX AND HIS CDJS" do they? Play off Minidisk if you want - go for it.
rob sparx wrote:tunes jumping all over the shop or playing backwards etc never had those problems with cdjs yet
If you've never had a CD skip on you or jib out then you must either wear surgical gloves all the time or you re-burn your shit frequently, which emphasises the disposability and reburnability of CDs.

I'm the first person to admit that I don't take the best care of my vinyl. Or CDs. Most of my CDs from when I was younger are now fucked, but 99% of my vinyl still works fine. In fact I LIKE the crunch and crackle of some of my fucked up records. It adds a certain something. CDs sound too clean.

Vinyl's built to last. CDs are built to be reburnt or copied to a hard drive. Neither is right and neither is wrong, but I prefer vinyl. Fuck CDJs.

Its like:
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Both light your spliff, and nobody really gives a fuck at the end of the day, but some people are fanatical about it.
My mate's got a massive box full of Clippers he's collected. I sell him my old ones all the time.

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Post by deamonds » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:25 am

I don’t see why you have so much of an issue with CDJ’s, especially when Digital (Ableton/Whatever, not Serato or Traktor, that at least requires more effort) is the biggest cop out EVER (unless you are playing your own tracks & live remixing through it). Dub’s are cool, I cut dub’s, they are just quite expensive. CD’s are an easy way of getting fresh dub’s onto an accessible format, and are also more reliable than say a digital programme. Possible solutions to why your CD’s skip when in a CDJ is to not burn too many tracks to each CD. Saying that CD’s sound too clean when you have recorded a promo mix for ‘FUCK CDJ’ Tshirt’s on a digital format, is asking for trouble don’t you think? And a 100% perfect, flawless mix sounds stupid, too tight just sounds un-natural, this is why Serato should be kept for this IMO, unless you are tight as arseholes on Vinyl & CDJ’s. Digital (Ableton/virtualDJ whatever) should never be even considered, you surprise me £10 bag, you were the last person I would have thought to resort to mixing in FL??

RE: The re-wind issue, if that is the only reason that you have took these t-shirt’s to print, you really need to re-evaluate. I love that you highlight your need to ‘reload’ often in your dance, and the CDJ format is making a horrible noise when you do it, so much so that it forced you to take these T-Shirt’s to print. I think maybe you should have printed some ‘FUCK RE-WINDS’ T-shirt’s. The whole thing stink’s of elitism, arrogance and stupidity in my eyes. What happens when you have GOT to play a set on them? Contradiction much? Any set with too much reloading is a shit one, too much stop/start, more chugging on & on & on please...

Please explain in more detail and with VALID reasons to why CDJ’s are a cop out.

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Post by mistalime » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:34 am

N-Type likes a good "Mental Turbo Cd Wheel" if the memory serves correct.
And we hand it back over to the fat guy with the mash.

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Post by DRTY » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:38 am

Just a thought, but perhaps OP actually likes and uses CDJs..... and just thought he could make a few swift £££.

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Post by NilsFG » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:53 am

I fucking love this thread :lol:

Say what you want but big up £10 bag :D

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Post by __________ » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:17 pm

deamonds wrote:you surprise me £10 bag, you were the last person I would have thought to resort to mixing in FL??
Bottom line for my FL mixes is that I haven't had decks at home for ages. Had to sell my mixer and tings :cry:
Appreciate that I live in the middle of nowhere - nobody in my ends has a setup I could use and I'm too skint to re-invest.
deamonds wrote:I don’t see why you have so much of an issue with CDJ’s
I just really hate them. It's a pain in the ass matching the gains with vinyl. Sometimes it's impossible to get them sounding the same volume. The pitch faders are NASTY - I don't like the instant-ness of them of the lack of resistance - they feel cheap and plasticy but they're not really are they, they're fucking expensive. Cueing still spins me out every time I use them. If they skip, they skip BAD, not like a vinyl with a bit of dust on the needle. The platters are a joke - really hard to control the pitch. CDJs sound too clean. I like to hear exactly how worn out and crackly my copy of Kalawanji is getting.

deamonds wrote:Saying that CD’s sound too clean when you have recorded a promo mix for ‘FUCK CDJ’ Tshirt’s on a digital format, is asking for trouble don’t you think?
I think I was asking for trouble with these shirts from the beginning, digital mixes or not :lol:
deamonds wrote:the only reason that you have took these t-shirt’s to print
...is because a few people asked me to. Nothing more!
deamonds wrote:What happens when you have GOT to play a set on them?
Ain't gonna happen. I've used CDJs enough in the past and have determined that they just ain't for me. Very ocassionally I'll use one if I've got no choice, but I wouldn't knowingly accept a gig where the only format is CD, and I never bring enough CDs to a gig to play a full set.
deamonds wrote:I love that you highlight your need to ‘reload’ often in your dance
You've got to remember I'm from Cornwall. Things move slowly down here. I play and pullup "Haunted" at every gig I play in Kernow because its still fresh to 99% of the dubstep night attendees down here. I drop "Lean Forward" every time without fail. "Mud" gets dropped every time without fail. "Blue Notez" STANDARDLY gets dropped every time without fail. Ask Djake - we both play about 75% 2005-2008 classics and DMZ/Deep Medi 12"s at every gig. Nobody else in our county has the same amount of classic dubstep on vinyl as we do. Not trying to be big-headed but its true. I'm just trying to explain myself. LEQ has a badman record collection, used to be just down the road from me and was the first person I heard play dubstep in Cornwall, but he's moved to London now so me and Djake are in charge of pulling up the DMZ records. If anybody else round 'ere has got loads of sick dubstep 12"s then they're keeping it quiet. When performing out, I stick to vinyl like shit to a blanket. I don't see a problem with that, and to be honest I think its a big contributing factor to why I've kept my residency.

I'm not trying to make myself out to be a badman DJ. I just love playing my record collection out and I try to stick to what I believe in. Like pulling up DMZ records and abusing people who use CDJs too much.

Big up you lot, haters or not. Had many laughs from this t-shirt ordeal.

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Post by sstutter » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:27 pm

£10 Bag wrote: I've saved up and cut most of them to dub now but I did the original Joker mix in FL.
99% of the studio vinyl mixes I hear would benefit from a pre-planned tracklist. I like to get my studio mixes 100% perfect - to a commercial standard. You just can't do that with decks unless your name is Youngsta.
I can't do it with decks anyway because I had to sell my mixer and turntables last year.
When I'm playing out its a performance and I wouldn't dream of using a disposable format
ive got the grooverider prototype mix from the late 90's and the mix part of the double cd has some dodgy parts to it, however thats the nature of the beast and it just takes practice... being good on vinyl, or cds is an art. thats why they have these things on abelton and serato to help you. its not even beat matching...its also learning to bring something in at a good sound level and not have you mix differing in volume as you go... then theres all the tricks you can do with eq and scratching.

your right about planning the mix and practicing entry and exit points, but you shouldnt be put off using vinyl to make a recorded mix because your worried youll screw up along the way.

i think people using ableton and the like has almost made people think its normal way of doing things... personally i like a live mix since it feels more responsive and impulsive... like all those dreamscape tape packs i used to listen to.

however, if you dont have decks then i can see a real problem there.
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Post by Wolverine » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:51 pm

Serato ftw..... I can use mp3's and spin them on vinyl/turntables.
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