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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:58 am
by hackman
d'brickashaw ferguson wrote:
hackman wrote:PEOPLE WHO ASSUME STUFF WHEN THEY HAVEN"T DONE ANY RESEARCH INTO CERTAIN AREAS


ARE MASSIVE MASSIVE stnuc


fucking arrogant, to think you know everything without having checked it out, prats
If you even begin to believe completely illogical drivel about reptilians and the like then you have a TINY, TINY BRAIN.
i know people who have seen them, and they aren't liars
nor are they insane

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:00 am
by d'brickashaw ferguson
hackman wrote:
d'brickashaw ferguson wrote:
hackman wrote:PEOPLE WHO ASSUME STUFF WHEN THEY HAVEN"T DONE ANY RESEARCH INTO CERTAIN AREAS


ARE MASSIVE MASSIVE stnuc


fucking arrogant, to think you know everything without having checked it out, prats
If you even begin to believe completely illogical drivel about reptilians and the like then you have a TINY, TINY BRAIN.
i know people who have seen them, and they aren't liars
nor are they insane
I assume you're being sarcastic.

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:00 am
by hackman
:roll: take it as you will

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:35 am
by Motorway to Roswell
hackman wrote:PEOPLE WHO ASSUME STUFF WHEN THEY HAVEN"T DONE ANY RESEARCH INTO CERTAIN AREAS

ARE MASSIVE MASSIVE stnuc

fucking arrogant, to think you know everything without having checked it out, prats
hackman wrote:a lot of metal peeps are satanists
:roll:

If it does have a message it's that they can take you for any ride they like and you'll still pay for it.

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:54 am
by dreamizm
hackman wrote: and just cos he's named as the main director, doesn't mean the people financing it weren't like "you need to put this in"
You see this is why I don't buy 99% of all conspiracy theories/illuminati coups... There would simply have to be too many people involved in the cover-up/conspiracy/plan for it to be true

Look how many whistleblowers and general admin slip-ups or leaks (whether intentional or not) there have been throughout history and then corroborated or later proven to be true

In you example above, do you honestly and reasonably think the director (or any of the hundreds of people involved or questioning why certain imagery was used) would not want to expose the truth at some stage - at least for their own publicity/ego or if not for the greater good? Or was he just brainwashed from the start :roll:

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:05 pm
by 2manynoobs
this vid is just another proof of the fact that you have to shock to make money

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:12 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
wolf89 wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:yeah well you did that to me as well :D

pointless going over old ground...wanted to debate with somebody else :D

going to bed anyway...shouldnt have any problems staying awake for my set tomorrow now :D
You still sound like a massive arsehole now.


Not appreciating it to say the least
what? lol

i wasn't being an arsehole

OT these threads never seem to end up truth seeking but merely one group pointing towards some obvious stuff and the other trying to refute is desperately...its sad :(

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:16 pm
by hackman
dreamizm wrote:You see this is why I don't buy 99% of all conspiracy theories/illuminati coups... There would simply have to be too many people involved in the cover-up/conspiracy/plan for it to be true
if you betray the organisation you'll be killed, maybe your family will be killed
that's what svali says (incidentally she has gone missing since all her testimony, which you probablyhaven't even heard of :roll: )
surely that's incentive enough?
plus humans are just greedy when you dangle endless money in front of them
dreamizm wrote:Look how many whistleblowers and general admin slip-ups or leaks (whether intentional or not) there have been throughout history and then corroborated or later proven to be true
not sure where your looking but i've seen fuck loads of whistleblower testimony, leaks, and slip ups
and depends on how much proof you need for it to be true
the truth makes sense
dreamizm wrote:In you example above, do you honestly and reasonably think the director (or any of the hundreds of people involved or questioning why certain imagery was used) would not want to expose the truth at some stage - at least for their own publicity/ego or if not for the greater good? Or was he just brainwashed from the start :roll:
why would the director be brainwashed? this just shows how misinformed you are

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:17 pm
by hackman
why don't you let us crazies talk about what interest us, and stay out the thread seeing as you all know exactly how the world works?

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:22 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
hackman wrote:why don't you let us crazies talk about what interest us, and stay out the thread seeing as you all know exactly how the world works?
I don't believe or disbelieve the conspiracy theories. All you can really do is soldier on, keep your eyes and mind open and your ear to the ground.

A lot of trouble stems from people believing that everything exists the way they perceive it.

You need everyone involved.

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:35 pm
by hackman
Motorway to Roswell wrote:A lot of trouble stems from people believing that everything exists the way they perceive it.
exactly

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:56 pm
by dreamizm
hackman wrote:if you betray the organisation you'll be killed, maybe your family will be killed
that's what svali says (incidentally she has gone missing since all her testimony, which you probablyhaven't even heard of :roll: )
surely that's incentive enough?
plus humans are just greedy when you dangle endless money in front of them
Greedy maybe. Infallible, no.

hackman wrote: not sure where your looking but i've seen fuck loads of whistleblower testimony, leaks, and slip ups
and depends on how much proof you need for it to be true
the truth makes sense
I am talking about legitimate and verifable sources that have been corroborated with evidence that stands up to public scrutiny.

The amount of proof you need for something to be true is usually enough to be 'convincing'. Obviously some people are more easily convinced than others. Personally, I want more 'proof' than a few assumptions and post-theory evidence collation

hackman wrote: why would the director be brainwashed? this just shows how misinformed you are
I was being sarcastic, implying that the only explanation you could give me for any of these people was that they were 'brainwashed' to keep their mouths shut.

Which brings us back to my original question: Are you honestly and reasonably telling me the only thing keeping all these ppl from exposing the conspiracy is money?
So have they ALL been paid off? Where does this money come from and would there not be evidence of it being transferred for people like yourselves willing to investigate??

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:03 pm
by hackman
dreamizm wrote: Are you honestly and reasonably telling me the only thing keeping all these ppl from exposing the conspiracy is money?
can you not read?
and people do expose it, go read up svali

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:27 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
as usual this come down to whether youre gonna insist all 'evidence' comes from an official source as opposed to..well...people

the papers dont put the storys they print through scrutiny half the time ffs..

and theyre the "official" sources

watch the full version of this lol


Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:33 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
haha its unavailabe anywhere on the net..what a surprise!

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:09 pm
by hackman
Image

yes that is alison goldfrapp with a huge owl

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:17 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
that was a mad goldfrapp vid btw hackman thanks for sharing

it all seems so weird to me as i was brought up with a strict christian background and even now this stuff seem incredibly dangerous to be messing with...are they trying to facilitate something?

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:22 pm
by hackman
actually really like that tune, first track i've liked from the charts for ages, been singing the chorus all day!
it's all very real and powerful, but they've literally sold their souls and their going to have a LOT of karma to deal with
it's basically the easy route to enlightenment, without putting any hard work in

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:23 pm
by HamCrescendo
An unfalsiable theory is not a good one. What would it take for you to drop this theory and admit it was false? Is it at all possible?

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:25 pm
by hackman
:D