As of 2007, no smoking in UK clubs...

[amen-ra]

Ok the bunnin experiment wont happen in some areas without u gettin a beating but the specific example is not important. Those that know themselves will know what the fuck I'm sayin

Maybe

[amen-ra]

Create your own realities. Fuck debates

You're already free

[jim beats]

well there are some smoke-free clubs, why dont you go to those? maybe the ones you should be upset with are the DJs that choose to play at clubs that allow smoking.

and those employees dont have to work there just like customers dont have to go there.

once again i am ignored....

OK, just to please you :
1. smoking will still be allowed in most clubs. We're basically talking about pubs and restaurants here (the thread title is wrong).
2. I'm not aware of any smoke-free clubs in the UK.
3. why should the DJs be responsible for whether clubs allow smoking? It's true that they could force the clubs to turn smoke-free, but only if they all decided not to play until clubs turned smoke-free, and why should they do that?
4. if a club employee quits because they don't like the smoke, they'll have no income. Someone somewhere will not have the option to quit because they can't afford to - do you think it's acceptable that someone has to work in a smoky pub just because they can't afford to leave? Try saying the same thing about an unsafe mine. We're lucky enough in the UK to have moved on from slave labour; your argument would take us right back to slave labour...

[jim beats]

Being free has nuttin to do with whether the government lets u smoke in some places and not in others- that's misunderstabnding the debate in stupid proportions

well quite

[minusdegree]

the human condition strikes again...sigh

[thc]

2. I'm not aware of any smoke-free clubs in the UK.

in your last post you said "most clubs" which implies not all. so which it is it? make up your mind.

3. why should the DJs be responsible for whether clubs allow smoking?

thats not what i am saying

and why should they do that?

cuz they're concerned about their fans health more so than money?

4. if a club employee quits because they don't like the smoke, they'll have no income. Someone somewhere will not have the option to quit because they can't afford to - do you think it's acceptable that someone has to work in a smoky pub just because they can't afford to leave?

well maybe they should have never gotten a job there in the first place. i dont think thats the ONLY job they could do.

[jim beats]

4. if a club employee quits because they don't like the smoke, they'll have no income. Someone somewhere will not have the option to quit because they can't afford to - do you think it's acceptable that someone has to work in a smoky pub just because they can't afford to leave?

well maybe they should have never gotten a job there in the first place. i dont think thats the ONLY job they could do.

That's not an argument. Go and find out why the trade union movement started, then come back with a better one.

[paulie]

smoking will still be allowed in most clubs. We're basically talking about pubs and restaurants here (the thread title is wrong).

No it won't.

[j_j]

FASCISM FASCISM FASCISM !!!how can it not be ??if i said ok i hate dubstep im banning it from all clubs n bars isnt that a pretty fascistic move?

[paulie]

Yes but dubstep doesn't kill people.

[peripheral]

FASCISM FASCISM FASCISM !!!how can it not be ??if i said ok i hate dubstep im banning it from all clubs n bars isnt that a pretty fascistic move?

nah that'd just be a bit stupid. unless anyone had conclusive evidence of the harmful effects of passive dubstep. see above for the harmful effects of pop-history and blinkers...

[paulie]

Honestly the civil liberties argument in favour of smoking is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard.

[j_j]

FASCISM FASCISM FASCISM !!!how can it not be ??if i said ok i hate dubstep im banning it from all clubs n bars isnt that a pretty fascistic move?

nah that'd just be a bit stupid. unless anyone had conclusive evidence of the harmful effects of passive dubstep. see above for the harmful effects of pop-history and blinkers...

we can clearly see here on the forum the damage done by what u call 'passive' dubstep .i vote ur out of parliament ..

[deapoh]

ahahhah ROFL hahahha joker big up J_J!

[jim beats]

smoking will still be allowed in most clubs. We're basically talking about pubs and restaurants here (the thread title is wrong).

No it won't.

I was under the impression there was a loophole that meant most clubs would be able to allow smoking... But maybe not. I certainly won't be complaining....

[j_j]

smoking will still be allowed in most clubs. We're basically talking about pubs and restaurants here (the thread title is wrong).

No it won't.

I was under the impression there was a loophole that meant most clubs would be able to allow smoking... But maybe not. I certainly won't be complaining....

ur not even on britain though..dissaffected?

[paulie]

smoking will still be allowed in most clubs. We're basically talking about pubs and restaurants here (the thread title is wrong).

No it won't.

I was under the impression there was a loophole that meant most clubs would be able to allow smoking... But maybe not. I certainly won't be complaining....

I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

[peripheral]

Honestly the civil liberties argument in favour of smoking is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard.

truss...

[peripheral]

FASCISM FASCISM FASCISM !!!how can it not be ??if i said ok i hate dubstep im banning it from all clubs n bars isnt that a pretty fascistic move?

nah that'd just be a bit stupid. unless anyone had conclusive evidence of the harmful effects of passive dubstep. see above for the harmful effects of pop-history and blinkers...

we can clearly see here on the forum the damage done by what u call 'passive' dubstep .i vote ur out of parliament ..

something about a point and missing. space bw ur ears mate. and who sez you have 2 b in england to have a point of view?

[thc]

4. if a club employee quits because they don't like the smoke, they'll have no income. Someone somewhere will not have the option to quit because they can't afford to - do you think it's acceptable that someone has to work in a smoky pub just because they can't afford to leave?

well maybe they should have never gotten a job there in the first place. i dont think thats the ONLY job they could do.

That's not an argument. Go and find out why the trade union movement started, then come back with a better one.

well i'm really a big fan of unions either. I dont think employees should be able to force their employers to change such insignifcant things. You need to come up with something better than "That's not an argument."
and what about everything else I said? You got nothing to say to that?