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Ady Aka Slippa wrote:
yea but labels dont promote to any tom dick and harry such as youtube channels would.... and plus nowadays most people dont have a really good intellectual understanding on how to listen to different types of music so any kid thats just searching up the word " Dubstep " into youtube... the supposed junk that might come up will be there automatic definition of dubstep and they will like it without understand the true elements of the music. Plus promoting music through youtube has made the scene totally marketable thats how you get a load of pants and unnecessary dubstep producers nowadays making it harder for really good and unbelievable producers to shine.

But then again would we listen to our favorite producers the same way if it was more mainstream....

Its a debate that will never be settled...

grotbags wrote:

Ady Aka Slippa wrote:
yea but labels dont promote to any tom dick and harry such as youtube channels would.... and plus nowadays most people dont have a really good intellectual understanding on how to listen to different types of music so any kid thats just searching up the word " Dubstep " into youtube... the supposed junk that might come up will be there automatic definition of dubstep and they will like it without understand the true elements of the music. Plus promoting music through youtube has made the scene totally marketable thats how you get a load of pants and unnecessary dubstep producers nowadays making it harder for really good and unbelievable producers to shine.

But then again would we listen to our favorite producers the same way if it was more mainstream....

Its a debate that will never be settled...

I was talking about youtube , plenty of labels and artists have their own pages on youtube. Why do people take it upon them selves to upload full length tunes on youtube in the name of helping to promote a labels music , aren't labels capable of doing that them selves if they choose to have their tunes on there? STholdings one of the main distributors have their own page on youtube with 2/3min spliced clips of every release that comes out through them isn't this enough promotion for dubstep without people uploading full length tunes?

pkay wrote:
You're missing the point. I run our youtube page and it has a finite audience because it is only our label. We submit our tracks to ID because his audience and the amount of interest in his channel

If you look at ST Holdings channel, ID's channel had about a dozen single videos with more views than st holdings channel has had in its entirety.

grotbags wrote:I get the point and im not talking about Inspector Dubplate as he seemed to have some artists hooking him up ,I was mainly aiming my discussion about a lot of the other channels people take it upon them selves to upload full length tunes on youtube in the name of helping to promote a labels music , aren't labels capable of doing that them selves if they choose to have their tunes on there? STholdings one of the main distributors have their own page on youtube with 2/3min spliced clips of every release that comes out through them isn't this enough promotion for dubstep without people uploading full length tunes?

seckle wrote:

grotbags wrote:I get the point and im not talking about Inspector Dubplate as he seemed to have some artists hooking him up ,I was mainly aiming my discussion about a lot of the other channels people take it upon them selves to upload full length tunes on youtube in the name of helping to promote a labels music , aren't labels capable of doing that them selves if they choose to have their tunes on there? STholdings one of the main distributors have their own page on youtube with 2/3min spliced clips of every release that comes out through them isn't this enough promotion for dubstep without people uploading full length tunes?

well, judging by the amount of crying going on in this thread, you have to see that the attitude taken by some people here is that its no big deal, and that the moment a tune is created and scheduled on a label, then the world owns it and is free to do whatever the hell they want with it.

this is the state of digital culture right now. everyone expects things on a silver platter, with no arguments, and entitlements given by virtue of free access.

seckle wrote:
well, judging by the amount of crying going on in this thread, you have to see that the attitude taken by some people here is that its no big deal, and that the moment a tune is created and scheduled on a label, then the world owns it and is free to do whatever the hell they want with it.

pkay wrote:
quit trying to start shit that isn't there. There's plenty of more interesting drama on this forum.... don't need to fabricate make believe shit

collige wrote:most of which were unsigned to begin with.

seckle wrote:

collige wrote:most of which were unsigned to begin with.

simply not true. there were LOADS of signed tunes on that channel. i mean dozens and dozens. easily 50% were signed.

brut willis wrote:If you prefer typing "dubstep" into youtube than dowloading last Bunzero, Ben UFO, Blackdown mix or whatever "filth" dj you like if you're into the "filth" sound, then i can't help myself feeling sorry for you and thinking you're helping to kill the work of the dj and the record shops.

collige wrote:

seckle wrote:

collige wrote:most of which were unsigned to begin with.

simply not true. there were LOADS of signed tunes on that channel. i mean dozens and dozens. easily 50% were signed.

There's no point in arguing this since we can't see the videos now that his account is suspended. If you can show that he uploaded signed tracks explicitly without label's permission, I would be very interested in seeing it, but until then I'm inclined to side with pkay as he has regular contact with him (I'm assuming you've never talked to the guy).

seckle wrote:

collige wrote:

seckle wrote:

collige wrote:most of which were unsigned to begin with.

simply not true. there were LOADS of signed tunes on that channel. i mean dozens and dozens. easily 50% were signed.

There's no point in arguing this since we can't see the videos now that his account is suspended. If you can show that he uploaded signed tracks explicitly without label's permission, I would be very interested in seeing it, but until then I'm inclined to side with pkay as he has regular contact with him (I'm assuming you've never talked to the guy).

right so, why did he get shut down then? if everything was approved, and well handled this thread wouldn't exist. what can we deduce from that? come on, its not that hard to see.

think about the amount of copyright infringement on youtube...and then think about why they pulled the plug on his channel. youtube don't do this sort of thing without basis. its fucking obvious why it got shutdown.

seckle wrote:

collige wrote:

seckle wrote:

collige wrote:most of which were unsigned to begin with.

simply not true. there were LOADS of signed tunes on that channel. i mean dozens and dozens. easily 50% were signed.

There's no point in arguing this since we can't see the videos now that his account is suspended. If you can show that he uploaded signed tracks explicitly without label's permission, I would be very interested in seeing it, but until then I'm inclined to side with pkay as he has regular contact with him (I'm assuming you've never talked to the guy).

right so, why did he get shut down then? if everything was approved, and well handled this thread wouldn't exist. what can we deduce from that? come on, its not that hard to see.

think about the amount of copyright infringement on youtube...and then think about why they pulled the plug on his channel. youtube don't do this sort of thing without basis.

jungletime21 wrote:i like lobster

Dark Reign wrote:I was subscribed to him and he did upload some good stuff. Hes not even the biggest dubstep channel anyway UKFDubstep has quite a bit more subscribers. almost 60,000

http://www.youtube.com/user/UKFDubstep

The Peak wrote:

lidsjunky wrote:must be doing well for himself to get all this hate.. sometimes its funny.. people make fun of all the whining facebook/youtube kids on his page.. i guess this is where they go to whine when they grow up?

hey mr brostepper, theres no need to be upset