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Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:22 pm
by gwa
we shouldn't have to work but we shouldn't be bone idle. without it i think the world would be a far less advanced society
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:25 pm
by hackman
lloydnoise wrote:hackman wrote:well, i can get bookings in other countries so i'm lucky
it's not all about me or you though, what about all the people that spend there lives working all the time, and never do anything with their lives?
see beyond the self
a lot of people can't be arsed, we have a shit tonne of choice in a our lives and most people (without a criminal record) can go wherever they want in this world. There have been those with ambition/vision and those without for centuries, it is not a product some new 'controlled' world, it just shows the variety in human society. I agree with your point (too many people let their lives drift by etc) but you sound like a 15 year old crudely paraphrasing his first Alan Watts book...
And 9-5 job = slavery??
that's a pretty dumb thing to say mang
you'd prefer to work 9 to 5 rather than develop skills in something you're passionate about full time and just enjoy life? lulz
go for it pet
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:31 pm
by fractal
in truth though, every animal on this planet has to fight and scrape for survival to even exist. we bitch and moan about having to work, but it seems pretty light to me
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:39 pm
by noam
hackman wrote:lloydnoise wrote:hackman wrote:well, i can get bookings in other countries so i'm lucky
it's not all about me or you though, what about all the people that spend there lives working all the time, and never do anything with their lives?
see beyond the self
a lot of people can't be arsed, we have a shit tonne of choice in a our lives and most people (without a criminal record) can go wherever they want in this world. There have been those with ambition/vision and those without for centuries, it is not a product some new 'controlled' world, it just shows the variety in human society. I agree with your point (too many people let their lives drift by etc) but you sound like a 15 year old crudely paraphrasing his first Alan Watts book...
And 9-5 job = slavery??
that's a pretty dumb thing to say mang
you'd prefer to work 9 to 5 rather than develop skills in something you're passionate about full time and just enjoy life? lulz
go for it pet
if no one had to do anything but pursue their dreams there would be no dreams to pursue
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:40 pm
by hackman
what utter codswallop
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:42 pm
by noam
fair enough if you dont believe that
but a dream is what you follow, work is everything you do along the way
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:45 pm
by kay
Life =/= work
Otherwise there is no point in considering ourselves anything but animals.
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:45 pm
by fractal
hackman wrote:what utter codswallop
you english have the best phrases i swear! love it
noam wrote:fair enough if you dont believe that
but a dream is what you follow, work is everything you do along the way
i would have to agree. why shouldn't we work towards something? i'm not saying let's all become part of the machine, but even if you were living off the grid, through your own devices, you would still have to wake and work to get food, maintain your shelter, etc... we aren't entitled to anything just for being born, imho
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:47 pm
by gwa
unfortunately you have to work to be able to pursue such things - don't forget you are a student hackman, you're getting money loaned to you at the time being
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:48 pm
by noam
exactly.
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:48 pm
by hackman
ARGH
i'm talking about a world where money doesn't exist OBVIOUSLY
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:49 pm
by gwa
currency will always be around because of something that begins with the letter E
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:50 pm
by noam
eggs?
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:50 pm
by gwa
think harder
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:51 pm
by hackman
EGO
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:51 pm
by brent
i overdosed on heroin about 10 years ago. i'm not scared of dying. i'm even more suicidal than i was then, but i'm holding on and hoping something will change...very soon.
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:53 pm
by fractal
hackman wrote:ARGH
i'm talking about a world where money doesn't exist OBVIOUSLY
really though, money is a good solution. it would be damn near impossible to barter for everything since the world is filled with so much specialized technology and skills. money is just a promissory note that directly equates to time spent working and your value as a worker, that you can later trade to another merchant for items.
imho
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:54 pm
by gwa
brent wrote:i overdosed on heroin about 10 years ago. i'm not scared of dying. i'm even more suicidal than i was then, but i'm holding on and hoping something will change...very soon.
i wish you luck, you sound like you need it mate
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:57 pm
by hackman
fractal wrote:hackman wrote:ARGH
i'm talking about a world where money doesn't exist OBVIOUSLY
really though, money is a good solution. it would be damn near impossible to barter for everything since the world is filled with so much specialized technology and skills. money is just a promissory note that directly equates to time spent working and your value as a worker, that you can later trade to another merchant for items.
imho
money a good solution? every single problem in the world you can equate back to money
go tell that to the starving people in africa
Re: DEATH
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:59 pm
by fractal
hackman wrote:fractal wrote:hackman wrote:ARGH
i'm talking about a world where money doesn't exist OBVIOUSLY
really though, money is a good solution. it would be damn near impossible to barter for everything since the world is filled with so much specialized technology and skills. money is just a promissory note that directly equates to time spent working and your value as a worker, that you can later trade to another merchant for items.
imho
money a good solution? every single problem in the world you can equate back to money
go tell that to the starving people in africa
what would your solution be?
edit, and i meant money is a good solution for the exchange of work and goods, not solution to the problems of the world, as you see in my post