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Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:15 pm
by jameshk
abs wrote:Image

just the thought of that send shivers down my spine, beautiful.
Incredible :)

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:26 pm
by jdw
clifford_- wrote:
jdw wrote:
clifford_- wrote:
jdw wrote:apparently over 100 people have been killed by the police in egypt.
in the last week/s?!?!?!? :o
yeah according to the guardian 41 have died since yesterday and thats only the confirmed deaths
Oh my god. Theyre just massacring protesters now? Gives the students something to think about.
Its probably mostly the looters that are getting killed. But yeah the police are using live ammunition.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:09 pm
by esfandyar
a big reason this revolt has begun was because of mubarak's incredibly violent suppression against any types of protesting amassing. the egyptians are sick of his violent dictatorship. he has killed lots more than just the numbers from this week... thats another large reason most of the people who are on the streets took to firebombing and bulldozing the police stations specifically because that was where the torturings of many protesters took place. again, some people deserve to die... mubarak is one of them. if you dont think so then something is wrong with you.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:35 pm
by Phigure
esfandyar wrote:a big reason this revolt has begun was because of mubarak's incredibly violent suppression against any types of protesting amassing. the egyptians are sick of his violent dictatorship. he has killed lots more than just the numbers from this week... thats another large reason most of the people who are on the streets took to firebombing and bulldozing the police stations specifically because that was where the torturings of many protesters took place. again, some people deserve to die... mubarak is one of them. if you dont think so then something is wrong with you.
Killing people is barbaric. We're not fucking animals...

If you really want to punish the motherfucker, stick him in a jail cell for the rest of his life. I'd rather die than have to be imprisoned in a shitty cell all my life

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:36 pm
by Phigure
Also, doctors in hospitals are being told not to record deaths caused by guns...

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:42 pm
by 64hz
Phigure wrote:
esfandyar wrote:a big reason this revolt has begun was because of mubarak's incredibly violent suppression against any types of protesting amassing. the egyptians are sick of his violent dictatorship. he has killed lots more than just the numbers from this week... thats another large reason most of the people who are on the streets took to firebombing and bulldozing the police stations specifically because that was where the torturings of many protesters took place. again, some people deserve to die... mubarak is one of them. if you dont think so then something is wrong with you.
Killing people is barbaric. We're not fucking animals...

If you really want to punish the motherfucker, stick him in a jail cell for the rest of his life. I'd rather die than have to be imprisoned in a shitty cell all my life
killing someone is a symbolic act though, it says we wont stand for you and your shit.
we're not animals we're humans and we kill each other. if i were egyptian i would want him dead.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:33 am
by esfandyar
So @phigure and @vulva just to use a really broad example, I know it's fiction but were you booing when hitler and the whole reich were getting blown away in inglorious bastards?? lol...

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:22 am
by Phigure
esfandyar wrote:So @phigure and @vulva just to use a really broad example, I know it's fiction but were you booing when hitler and the whole reich were getting blown away in inglorious bastards?? lol...
no.

because it's fiction.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:42 am
by jameshk
Don't fight in a thread like this, c'mon.

I wish there was something more i could do to help, I havn't seen something as powerful as this for so long.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:10 am
by -dubson-
64hz wrote:
Phigure wrote:
esfandyar wrote:a big reason this revolt has begun was because of mubarak's incredibly violent suppression against any types of protesting amassing. the egyptians are sick of his violent dictatorship. he has killed lots more than just the numbers from this week... thats another large reason most of the people who are on the streets took to firebombing and bulldozing the police stations specifically because that was where the torturings of many protesters took place. again, some people deserve to die... mubarak is one of them. if you dont think so then something is wrong with you.
Killing people is barbaric. We're not fucking animals...

If you really want to punish the motherfucker, stick him in a jail cell for the rest of his life. I'd rather die than have to be imprisoned in a shitty cell all my life
killing someone is a symbolic act though, it says we wont stand for you and your shit.
we're not animals we're humans and we kill each other. if i were egyptian i would want him dead.
I agree killing some is symbolic, but why encourage it, its only gonna lead to more problems down the line. The whole issue with parents hitting children and causing them to be violent in later life shows this too.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:15 am
by 64hz
thats not a very good analogy imo, you kill someone and there is no later life.
dont get me wrong, im not advocating needless violence and killing anyone whose opinions contradict your own, but there comes a time. . .
peaceful means of revolution until none other are possible. .

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:22 am
by -dubson-
64hz wrote:thats not a very good analogy imo, you kill someone and there is no later life.
dont get me wrong, im not advocating needless violence and killing anyone whose opinions contradict your own, but there comes a time. . .
peaceful means of revolution until none other are possible. .
So then when someone wants another revolution they just kill the next leader? Where do you draw the line? Think its a bad idea for people getting into their heads that killing people is acceptable in any circumstances when avoidable.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:23 am
by TSH-Tim
The situation in egypt = fucked

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:29 am
by esfandyar
Phigure wrote:
esfandyar wrote:So @phigure and @vulva just to use a really broad example, I know it's fiction but were you booing when hitler and the whole reich were getting blown away in inglorious bastards?? lol...
no.

because it's fiction.
look i dont expect to change anyones opinions on this and i will stop arguing about it but this pacifist peaceful revolution shit is just ridiculous. next you will all suggest gandhi and the british occupation but that was so entirely circumstantial...

meanwhile the egyptian govt is not considering peaceful means to achieve their desires, no they are now killing political prisoners :|
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 17,00.html

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:40 am
by nowaysj
-dubson- wrote:So then when someone wants another revolution they just kill the next leader?
This is how Mubarak came into power in the first place, isn't it?

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This situation is indeed fucked. Even if the revolution is successful, I don't see a bright open future for those people. I believe religious extremists will try to seize power, and I believe many people will oppose them and then I believe the extremists will do what extremists do, wear explosives in crowded places. I would very much like this to be inaccurate.

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Would anyone care to compare and contrast this revolution to the recent failed revolution in Iran?

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:50 pm
by LACE
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Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:22 pm
by ashley
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Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:33 pm
by phrex
esfandyar wrote:So @phigure and @vulva just to use a really broad example, I know it's fiction but were you booing when hitler and the whole reich were getting blown away in inglorious bastards?? lol...
there is one thing you don't understand.

emotion < state of law

of course my emotions say to kill rapers, mubaraks etc. but that's not what counts.

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:38 pm
by NickUndercover
Phigure wrote:Also, doctors in hospitals are being told not to record deaths caused by guns...
WHAT

Re: the situation in egypt

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:54 pm
by amick
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