Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:59 pm
by .onelove.
garethom wrote: An American might've considered the Arsenal - Birmingham Carling Cup Final boring, but I don't think I've ever been as happy as a sports fan as I was than when I saw Obafemi Martins score in the 83rd minute.
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That's the beauty of it, a scrappy fumbled winner off some chaps knee can be infinitely more powerful than a skillful sizzling 40 yard volley, despite the latter being a greater showcase of talent.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:46 pm
by kidshuffle
.onelove. wrote:Yeah, no-one over here will defend diving tbh. Still happens of course but we dont justify it as a legitimate move like Latina American and continent Europe does.
Still, below the Premiership players will get ripped for attempting it anyway.
kidshuffle wrote:
2) There are too many 0-0 games.
Never understand why American sports revolve around such ridiculous scorelines. Basketball is literally end-to-end non-stop scoring, totally removing all emotion from a play coming off. Nothing compares to a stadium full of fans erupting to a last minute winner.
Where is the last minute winner in a 0-0 game? I personally enjoy soccer, except for when games go to a draw. If we're going to spend hours watching a game, we want to see somebody win, not take a 0-0 draw and call it a day.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:48 pm
by kidshuffle
esfandyar wrote:only now though is flopping injury in the NBA being addressed. Fucking Manu Ginobili... FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCK.
Making chicken shit attempts to fool refs into thinking your injury bears merit is such a pitiful move to give you the advantage. In ANY sport.
Holy shit, I didn't think about how much the new rules are going to fuck him over. Fuck yeah
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:52 pm
by J__J_90
I like my football, but much prefer to play it than watch it, even if it's my own team playing. I just feel no connection or sympathy with the modern day footballer.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:56 pm
by kidshuffle
clifford_- wrote:if you have grown up going to the football every saturday with your dad, looking forward to it all week, youd understand/have a very different outlook.
Almost like if you grew up going to watch the NFL with your dad every Sunday?
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:13 pm
by .onelove.
kidshuffle wrote:
Where is the last minute winner in a 0-0 game? I personally enjoy soccer, except for when games go to a draw. If we're going to spend hours watching a game, we want to see somebody win, not take a 0-0 draw and call it a day.
Whats wrong with a draw? A hard earnt draw can be just as satisfying as a win, depending on the calibre of the opposition.
I mean some of the best matches last year finished as draws..........it all counts in a season.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:00 pm
by kidshuffle
This is North America bro, we want winners and losers. Personally, I enjoy soccer, and can be satisfied with a draw when there has been goals scored. But I think you missed my main point, that people here don't want to see a 0-0 game. To people over here, that should be more of a loss for both teams, not a draw.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:32 pm
by garethom
kidshuffle wrote:This is North America bro, we want winners and losers. Personally, I enjoy soccer, and can be satisfied with a draw when there has been goals scored. But I think you missed my main point, that people here don't want to see a 0-0 game. To people over here, that should be more of a loss for both teams, not a draw.
Do you think British people like seeing a 0-0? Very VERY rarely, there is an exciting 0-0, one example for me was Birmingham v Chelsea a few years ago, real edge of the seat stuff, but to give it some context, Chelsea were expected to run rampant, we had chances, they had chances, both teams coming close, but a really good game of football.
In general, football fans can be happy with a 0-0 because of the points gained, etc. etc., but it's not like they consider it entertainment.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:43 pm
by unwind
Football is shit.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:44 pm
by .onelove.
kidshuffle wrote:This is North America bro, we want winners and losers. Personally, I enjoy soccer, and can be satisfied with a draw when there has been goals scored. But I think you missed my main point, that people here don't want to see a 0-0 game. To people over here, that should be more of a loss for both teams, not a draw.
Spose it stems back to what I was saying earlier, as a neutral spectacle I'd agree football really isn't all that. Many if the MLS continues progressing to a competitive standard people over there would get more involved and the love will build from there.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:34 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
football and football are shit
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:17 pm
by AxeD
All about Tour de France now anyways.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:31 pm
by the acid never lies
g.dot wrote:I like my football, but much prefer to play it than watch it, even if it's my own team playing. I just feel no connection or sympathy with the modern day footballer.
I know what you mean... I am sentimental when it comes to local working class heroes representing their hometown but football is more about the athleticism and the spectacle, which I've never found that interesting to begin with (though the very few times I have watched a good game at the stadium it was a little bit special).
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:00 pm
by __________
All televised sport is shit but rugby is the most watchable because nobody fakes an injury and there's sometimes a fight.
The amount of analysis that goes on of televised sports is depressing. People pay more attention to televised sport than they do politics.
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:12 pm
by HamCrescendo
can you blame them... the only thing more depressing than politics is supporting luton. EH LADS?!?!?
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:29 pm
by garethom
£10 Bag wrote:All televised sport is shit but rugby is the most watchable because nobody fakes an injury
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:37 pm
by soul dead
I'd love to take americans seriously but then I remember shit like this:
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:59 pm
by laurent__duval
kidshuffle wrote:
.onelove. wrote:Yeah, no-one over here will defend diving tbh. Still happens of course but we dont justify it as a legitimate move like Latina American and continent Europe does.
Still, below the Premiership players will get ripped for attempting it anyway.
kidshuffle wrote:
2) There are too many 0-0 games.
Never understand why American sports revolve around such ridiculous scorelines. Basketball is literally end-to-end non-stop scoring, totally removing all emotion from a play coming off. Nothing compares to a stadium full of fans erupting to a last minute winner.
Where is the last minute winner in a 0-0 game? I personally enjoy soccer, except for when games go to a draw. If we're going to spend hours watching a game, we want to see somebody win, not take a 0-0 draw and call it a day.
thats why america isnt into football. imagine what its like in cricket when they can play for 5 days and still draw...
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:51 pm
by faust.dtc
pkay wrote:
All I kept thinking was 'David Beckham has let himself go a bit.'
Re: This is exactly how americans view soccer/football
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:11 pm
by the acid never lies
soul dead wrote:I'd love to take americans seriously but then I remember shit like this:
