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Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:49 am
by Muncey
How well/badly would it work cutting .wavs ripped from CDs? Ruff Sqwads White Label Classics for example? Or for an older example one of the old Terror Danjah or Wiley instrumental CDs? I assume the older ones will produce a poorer quality?

Don't wanna spend money getting them cut and finding out its doo doo.. but it almost seems worth it for some grime instrumentals. Functions on a low for example.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:09 am
by charliefoy
Muncey wrote:How well/badly would it work cutting .wavs ripped from CDs? Ruff Sqwads White Label Classics for example? Or for an older example one of the old Terror Danjah or Wiley instrumental CDs? I assume the older ones will produce a poorer quality?

Don't wanna spend money getting them cut and finding out its doo doo.. but it almost seems worth it for some grime instrumentals. Functions on a low for example.
wavs should be cool

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:13 am
by Muncey
Do they not lose any/much quality being ripped from a CD? I always assumed they would, don't know why lol.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:37 am
by antipode
Muncey wrote:Do they not lose any/much quality being ripped from a CD? I always assumed they would, don't know why lol.
nah CD quality is CD quality. if you rip it as a wav it should sound great.
only thing is that it would have been mastered for CD so itl be quite loud and not IDEAL for cutting but it should sound fine imo

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:44 am
by Muncey
epochalypso wrote:
Muncey wrote:Do they not lose any/much quality being ripped from a CD? I always assumed they would, don't know why lol.
nah CD quality is CD quality. if you rip it as a wav it should sound great.
only thing is that it would have been mastered for CD so itl be quite loud and not IDEAL for cutting but it should sound fine imo
Ah fair enough, cheers :Q:

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:51 pm
by Amantus
it only loses quality if you rip and then convert it to a lossy format (ie mp3). lossless formats (FLAC etc) don't lose anything.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:31 pm
by Raad
epochalypso wrote:
Muncey wrote:Do they not lose any/much quality being ripped from a CD? I always assumed they would, don't know why lol.
nah CD quality is CD quality. if you rip it as a wav it should sound great.
only thing is that it would have been mastered for CD so itl be quite loud and not IDEAL for cutting but it should sound fine imo
Yeah, I've cut tunes mastered for digital and they still sound pretty great.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:32 pm
by didi
Muncey wrote:How well/badly would it work cutting .wavs ripped from CDs? Ruff Sqwads White Label Classics for example? Or for an older example one of the old Terror Danjah or Wiley instrumental CDs? I assume the older ones will produce a poorer quality?

Don't wanna spend money getting them cut and finding out its doo doo.. but it almost seems worth it for some grime instrumentals. Functions on a low for example.
It's been fine for me.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:24 am
by antipode
(and mala does it)

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:09 am
by rev
epochalypso wrote:(and mala does it)
could be added to almost any argument in this part of the forum, to end discussions... :4:

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:11 am
by Muncey
epochalypso wrote:(and mala does it)
He cuts grime tunes ripped from CDs? -t-

Haha but cheers guys, I was just worried because old grime isn't great quality at the best of times.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:00 am
by Pulp
I am gonna get a couple of my tunes cut soon - going to have to send it off and receive in the post, would love to get down to a studio at some point, but for now, what internet service should I go with?

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:15 am
by Raad

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:18 pm
by charliefoy
http://www.transition-studios.com
very fast and very good

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:22 pm
by __________
I've emailed Transition about three times in the past wanting to try their dubs, they never responded :lol:
I use Music House in London and Dub Studio in Bristol, both good.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:39 pm
by charliefoy
£10 Bag wrote:I've emailed Transition about three times in the past wanting to try their dubs, they never responded :lol:
I use Music House in London and Dub Studio in Bristol, both good.
Strange! I even had a jump in a dub and they re-cut it for free. Do you have a link for music house?

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:42 pm
by baddis98
epochalypso wrote:
Muncey wrote:Do they not lose any/much quality being ripped from a CD? I always assumed they would, don't know why lol.
nah CD quality is CD quality.
that's not completely true. ripping is not simple file copying. even with lossless formats like .wav or .flac the quality depends on the ripping process / the software you use. surely there should only be minor differences, but a rip from an audio cd is no 1:1 copy.

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:34 pm
by rev
"CD audio" encoding is uncompressed (wav/aiff) 16-bit, 44.1 KHz, 20-20000 hz = around 1411 kbps of data stream for a stereo audio signal

which is why if you 'rip' a cd with these settings, you should get as close to 1:1 copy as possible. Every other format ripped from a cd would be an encoding, and require more processing.

Fun fact: In the 90es studios and DATs often used 48 KHz instead (or 96 KHz, and/or 24 bit if you had a reason/money/tape to do it) - the 44.1 has to do with politics about wanting to have CD stay at 5 cm. A executive decision of 48 KHz would have made a lot more sense, and now we are stuck with 44.1 in a lot of audio encoding software. The story is interesting and available online somewhere, don't have time to google it now...

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:28 pm
by charliefoy
rev wrote:"CD audio" encoding is uncompressed (wav/aiff) 16-bit, 44.1 KHz, 20-20000 hz = around 1411 kbps of data stream for a stereo audio signal

which is why if you 'rip' a cd with these settings, you should get as close to 1:1 copy as possible. Every other format ripped from a cd would be an encoding, and require more processing.

Fun fact: In the 90es studios and DATs often used 48 KHz instead (or 96 KHz, and/or 24 bit if you had a reason/money/tape to do it) - the 44.1 has to do with politics about wanting to have CD stay at 5 cm. A executive decision of 48 KHz would have made a lot more sense, and now we are stuck with 44.1 in a lot of audio encoding software. The story is interesting and available online somewhere, don't have time to google it now...
off topic...that jah war vip is naughty. very jealous

Re: acetate discussions

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:20 pm
by __________
charliefoy wrote:Do you have a link for music house?
Pretty sure they don't have a website man. I get a mate to ring them up then we go there with the tracks on CD. Acetate cuts on a Neumann - it's fun watching the process first hand!