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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:08 am
by echo wanderer
marty wrote:
two oh one wrote:Similarly, Emo kinda came from Hardcore originally, didn't it? Hardcore Punk is about moshpits, STDs and hitting each other in the mouth with bottles. For fun.
i don't want to comment on this girl but on emo generally...
emo nowadays is so far away from its roots. wasn't it originally "intended" to show a way other than the taking-over machoism in the hardcore scene? back in time when bands like the get up kids and jimmy eats world got too much media attention everything went down the drain (at least IMHO).

nice quote from guy picciotto of rites of spring and later fugazi fame:
"I've never recognized ‚emo‘ as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it. But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that - what, like the Bad Brains weren't emotional? What - they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me."
Yes good point.All music is emotional if you think about it.It doesn't have to mean anything to anybody else but yourself if it stems from an emotion.But a lot of emo kids toss on indie kids,even though basically a lot of thier music sounds exactly the same.That goes for pop punk(where the emo vocal harmonies come in) and hardcore(where the brash,macho stance comes in) as well,yet emos still segregate themselves from them too.It's kind of sad how it's classified as music when it's really a fashion.And at the same time the name is all the music is identified with,which cheapens the music,not the fashion.If I play an emo kid Sunny Day Real Estate and tell them it's emo,they would believe it was because someone said it was emo.But if I tell them they were a mid '90s SubPop band,chances are I get a query of,"Oh...you mean like grunge?Nirvana?Well...that's not EMO."And they'd be really snotty about it too.The irony is,they hate indie kids for the exact same behaviour! :lol:

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:37 pm
by dj 3man
When I was in art school back in the late 90's, at the tail end of the hardcore straightedge punk era (which was another joke all unto itself, them being probably the most closeminded people I ever witnessed), I saw my first glimpse of the indie rock/emo scene. At the time I was discovering the rave culture and hardcore scene after having been into hip hop for so long. As a tool, I labelled myself a hardcore kid back then. But soon realized that putting a label on myself was fucking retarded as I listened to all kinds of things and I never identified or fit into any cliques at all. Why put this stupid ass label on yourself? It is self limiting and will only close your mind to new ideas and ways of thinking, new culture. I'm not a raver, even though the majority of the music I listen to is electronic. I like metal and dare I say the Smiths, and yes, even good so called early emo bands like "Texas is the reason" and "Sunny day real estate." I refuse to identify with music labels like that. Although I guess I'm a hypocrite by saying I DJ. I can't really get away from some kind of label I guess, even saying you are a person is labelling. Uh well....

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:55 pm
by rob_o
lol green victim

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:08 pm
by gravious
oh good god that clip is long

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:15 pm
by pk-
stick with it, she gets her kit off at the end.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:17 pm
by ana
Ew.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:11 pm
by misk
im emotional softcore. no emotional penetration shots from me. 8)

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:53 pm
by xi
2 words: bum chin

4 words: I love this company

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:56 am
by guerillaeye
paolo wrote:How is this nsfw? She didn't get her boobs out
im not watching any more.

kthaxby

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:03 pm
by the decoy
I like turtles.

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:42 am
by näjt
People hate emo kids because of that subculture's tendancy to glorify weakness. Sure it's great to be in touch with your emotions, but it's better to be in control of them, it's undignified to cry and get hysterical in public, it makes you look stupid. Nobody should dwell on the fact that we all feel emotional pain at some point in our lives. Also, all the emo's i've ever met have been people with no real problems.

Also, it's fine to hate emo kids. Being emo is a choice, being black or arabian or homosexual isn't. There's nothing wrong with criticizing people's dress sense or hairstyle or music taste. Also, why is she telling everyone to love eachother and then talking about hitting people who say they want emo's to die?

Also, emo music is pretty unemotional to my ears. I really can't identify with what some whining little rich kids with stupid hair have to say about anything. If I want something that evokes deep emotions i'll listen to Radiohead or Dead Can Dance or Tenhi or something, not fucking shit pop-punk with some over-privileged asshole crying about some woman who probably left him for a guy with some balls.

I really hope someone plays that vid back to her when she's about 25 hahaha

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:52 pm
by perkalerk215
so this "emo movement" she speaks of, i think it is retarded. These kids have no idea what they're talking about. Or how stupid they sound/look.

In about 3 years, they will realize how stupid they were. It's cool. We all go through those phases. I am just sick of looking at these teens thinking they're the shit for dressing in weird black clothes and having black long hair and looking sad all the time. They can't all be depressed 24/7.

This girl needs to be slapped though. i watched the video for about 2 mins or something and had to shut it off. ridiculous. shes asking for a beat down. by the entire non-emo population. If you think that video is bad though, watch her response to all the threats and stuff she got from the first video. What a tard.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:45 pm
by jarman
I'm actually kind of ticked off here. I wish I hadn't bothered with watching even the 15 seconds that I did. I feel like I'm wasting my time even writing about it.

They can be emo if they want, but I hate even listening to them talk, and that girl should not even be able to say that people watched her video on the net, and it got them talking.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:41 pm
by misk
Jarman wrote: They can be emo if they want, but I hate even listening to them talk...
QFT

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:11 pm
by relaks
Misk wrote:
Jarman wrote: They can be emo if they want, but I hate even listening to them talk...
QFT
QFT?

I don't know what that means, but I think we all hate them.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:21 pm
by relaks
have we figured out why this vid's not safe for work?

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:30 pm
by pk-
she swears a bit i think

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:51 pm
by rekordah
Echo Wanderer wrote:
thomas e. griffin wrote:She's fit.
She's 13!!! :o
almost a polanski!

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:57 pm
by rekordah
pk- wrote:so what's an emo kid then

is emo a type of music?
Emo believe it or not was originally a term to describe the emotional hardcore scene that grew from the ashes of u.s. hardcore punk in the 80's. Quite some credible and profound music was produced from this scene but it has since been hijacked by face-painted public school kids who play pop music.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:46 pm
by misk
relaks wrote:
Misk wrote:
Jarman wrote: They can be emo if they want, but I hate even listening to them talk...
QFT
QFT?

I don't know what that means, but I think we all hate them.
quoted for truth :D