dubstep in fl studio

[wormcode]

Imo to play a mixer you need all controls available at all times, to all of your fingers. Playing a virtual mixer, for me, would require full parity in a hardware midi controller of volume, mutes, solos, and sends. Otherwise, that tiny mixer remains one of the bonuses of using fl. I really don't want to dedicate a whole monitor to a mixer that I can only interface with one point of control (mouse).

Some people just want that big mixer though. I hope they keep that small one as an option though.

Yeah that's what I mean, I do that with any DAW I've used, I'm pretty hands-on and it's fairly common for people who are used to using mixers. I would still be using a mixer if space and moving cities wasn't an issue. I have every button/fader I use mapped to a physical controller. Here's a thread where it was discussed a bit: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=233393

And yeah I'm sure the mixer size would be able to be changed based on preference. Once they do implement changes, they are usually good about giving options about it.

I do have the Wide Tracks enabled btw. I forgot about that, but it only helps a bit really.
Here's a couple of threads about making the mixer bigger, gol knows: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=51905 & http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=50296
Actually it has been discussed many many times on the IL website over the years.

[grimsin]

some pretty interesting shit

[nowaysj]

Imo to play a mixer you need all controls available at all times, to all of your fingers. Playing a virtual mixer, for me, would require full parity in a hardware midi controller of volume, mutes, solos, and sends. Otherwise, that tiny mixer remains one of the bonuses of using fl. I really don't want to dedicate a whole monitor to a mixer that I can only interface with one point of control (mouse).

Some people just want that big mixer though. I hope they keep that small one as an option though.

Yeah that's what I mean, I do that with any DAW I've used, I'm pretty hands-on and it's fairly common for people who are used to using mixers. I would still be using a mixer if space and moving cities wasn't an issue. I have every button/fader I use mapped to a physical controller. Here's a thread where it was discussed a bit: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=233393

And yeah I'm sure the mixer size would be able to be changed based on preference. Once they do implement changes, they are usually good about giving options about it.

I do have the Wide Tracks enabled btw. I forgot about that, but it only helps a bit really.
Here's a couple of threads about making the mixer bigger, gol knows: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=51905 & http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=50296
Actually it has been discussed many many times on the IL website over the years.

Without reading those threads, are you dealing with motorized midi faders? If not, not for me, unless you've got like 24-36 simultaneous midi faders going. Thing I find with most mappings is it is like 50% there, really good ones, it is like 80% there. But still 1/5 you're going to have to split the whole mind, and revert for whatever task to the mouse. I'm better in an all or nothing kind of situation, where it is all this or all that, but kind of switching in between just annoys me, creates more processing overhead for an already feeble noodle, and slows me down.

I too really need a mixer, prolly been hearing me whine about it on here for the past 4 years... That and at least 4 tracks of tape recording, a few more modest outboard fx and I'm set. I got my process down in the box, kind of rock back and forth between devices, resampling (don't try this at home kids) as I go, and with just a few more hardware bits, I could replicate that workflow in the real world... just gonna take time, space and money. Good think the big E showed on this planet Time = Space * $^2

[Ficticious]

I don't see any problem with FL really, just small nitpicking.

I'm well enjoying it and I don't find it a toy at all, It's how you learn to use it.

Ps. Heard a rumor Kromestar used FL, And if we wanna go further, deadmau5 actually used FL for a while got bored and switched to cubase. There's also Skream (Didn't he?) just sayin'

There are producers out there who use FL who make plenty of good songs.

but that's not the point, the point is, learn it enough (as discussed) and you'll be able to use it just fine.

One more thing, Wub don't you use FL too?

Anyway, I use FL as well and refuse to give up on it. Yes I have tried other DAW's, FL just sticks with me it really isn't the "Beginner" tool, just a lot of navigation to learn and hidden stuff that you gotta read on constantly or update through other VST plugins.

And honestly? Using "FL's plugins aren't up to par" is a weak argument, those can always be updated with time or replaced by 3rd party stuff.

Anyways, this isn't about a DAW war (For the 10000000000th time) this is about helping this poor chap find what works for him cause he got screwed over with what he's been learning on.

[idontreallygiveashit]

Anyway, I use FL as well and refuse to give up on it. Yes I have tried other DAW's, FL just sticks with me it really isn't the "Beginner" tool, just a lot of navigation to learn and hidden stuff that you gotta read on constantly or update through other VST plugins.

then why make this thread again?

[Electric_Head]

grimsin made the thread

[idontreallygiveashit]

my bad, sorry ficticious

[wormcode]

@nowaysj Yeah the BCF2000 has motors/total recall and you can link up several of them to essentially have a 32 channel mixer for under a grand if you want. Totally overkill but just sayin'. Anyway at that point I'd be looking back to analogue and not MIDI controllers. They are the cheapest interfaces with motors I've found, the 2nd probably being a used Mackie Control which are better build quality but price reflects that. Besides being how I learned (hardware) it's just preference as I have to use a mouse most of the day anyway for other stuff, and it's refreshing to not have to use it as much when working on music too.

[mthrfnk]

Ps. Heard a rumor Kromestar used FL, And if we wanna go further, deadmau5 actually used FL for a while got bored and switched to cubase. There's also Skream (Didn't he?) just sayin'

Madeon, deadmau5, Porter Robinson, Feed Me, Camo & Krooked, Skream, Benga, Avicii, the list goes on. Yeah I don't give a fuck if you don't like what they produce, fact is they've made a careers from their productions... made with FL Studio. Anybody who says FL isn't as good as any other DAW is just talking bullshit.

[fiveone]

yeah 100% agreed, you can do everything on FL just as easily as any other DAW... i prefer FL because i love the layout but also at the same time hate it because of the navigation! i've been using FL for about 3/4ish years now and i'm still discovering the shortcuts and awesome shit i didn't know i could do with it. i guess what some people say about FL being toy is true in the sense of how easy it is to grasp and use after a while but surely that's just a good thing?

i made all my dubs solely on FL and i've been improving a lot day by day! i don't see what the difference is between most DAWs!

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[Ficticious]

my bad, sorry ficticious

it's okay

stop hatin, we family

I've used ableton a bit and looked up its tutorials.

The main differences are the interfaces honestly, Navigation through FL is what is key, after you learn it FL no longer becomes "Clunky" but rather fluid it's almost rediculous how fast you can start going through to pop out a tune. You can say that about ableton too though I suppose...

though I wish in FL I could make a drum rack that would change through out the song like the guy did in ableton. Drum bass or whatever it's called.

That way I can have different drum sounds through out the song without having to put and EQ loads of samples or my same sample over and over. If anyone knows how to do this in FL much appreciated and big up's to you if you can show me.

Anyway, if you learned on FL stick with FL.

Get yourself massive or something' 3rd party that's related if you don't want to somehow get massive.
Fruity Limiter & Compressor may seem "shitty" but to me it's amazing.
Same with it's Love Philter

[Sure_Fire]

That way I can have different drum sounds through out the song without having to put and EQ loads of samples or my same sample over and over. If anyone knows how to do this in FL much appreciated and big up's to you if you can show me.

Load a bunch of pre-eq'ed drum sounds into Slicex and save them as a preset. I wouldn't suggest doing that for the main kick and snare, but having a slicex file with 10 different hi hats, 5 rides and 5 crashes (and a china, mini china and splash) is so handy. I load that up and my drums take up a total of about 5 mixer slots. I also have another slicex preset with around 20 pre-mixed percussive instruments.

[sluggy]

That way I can have different drum sounds through out the song without having to put and EQ loads of samples or my same sample over and over. If anyone knows how to do this in FL much appreciated and big up's to you if you can show me.

Load a bunch of pre-eq'ed drum sounds into Slicex and save them as a preset. I wouldn't suggest doing that for the main kick and snare, but having a slicex file with 10 different hi hats, 5 rides and 5 crashes (and a china, mini china and splash) is so handy. I load that up and my drums take up a total of about 5 mixer slots. I also have another slicex preset with around 20 pre-mixed percussive instruments.

You forgot to mention how to load multiple files into Slicex. If you were to drag a sample from the browser into a Slicex channel and then drag another sample it would replace the first one, but if you were to drag a sample and drag another sample while holding shift it'll load both of them.

[grimsin]

I love it when people bash Fl studio. I get it allot on face book, that's what made me decide to post this petiole keep telling me its for the kids, but half of them don't even knowhow it works.

[glottis5]

I find FL studio really conductive to creativity. When I look at Ableton or Renoise I'm just like "uhhh", but with FL i can usually start something really quickly, even if it's stupid.

[grimsin]

I love those stupid tracks i start by just experimenting. I think the fact that you can change the back ground on fl really helps with creativity as well

[Sure_Fire]

That way I can have different drum sounds through out the song without having to put and EQ loads of samples or my same sample over and over. If anyone knows how to do this in FL much appreciated and big up's to you if you can show me.

Load a bunch of pre-eq'ed drum sounds into Slicex and save them as a preset. I wouldn't suggest doing that for the main kick and snare, but having a slicex file with 10 different hi hats, 5 rides and 5 crashes (and a china, mini china and splash) is so handy. I load that up and my drums take up a total of about 5 mixer slots. I also have another slicex preset with around 20 pre-mixed percussive instruments.

You forgot to mention how to load multiple files into Slicex. If you were to drag a sample from the browser into a Slicex channel and then drag another sample it would replace the first one, but if you were to drag a sample and drag another sample while holding shift it'll load both of them.

I usually just line all the samples up in a pattern, use edison to record them all one after the other then drag the audio file to slicex. Thanks the tip on how to load multiple samples, I knew you could do it somehow but never bothered finding out...

[wormcode]

Ps. Heard a rumor Kromestar used FL, And if we wanna go further, deadmau5 actually used FL for a while got bored and switched to cubase. There's also Skream (Didn't he?) just sayin'

Madeon, deadmau5, Porter Robinson, Feed Me, Camo & Krooked, Skream, Benga, Avicii, the list goes on. Yeah I don't give a fuck if you don't like what they produce, fact is they've made a careers from their productions... made with FL Studio. Anybody who says FL isn't as good as any other DAW is just talking bullshit.

All you have to do is mention Billain. That's it. The most ridiculous sound designer around these days (Noisia is jealous). You might have heard his sound design in places you probably don't even realise like tv ads. For example IIRC he made the Android phone voice companies use in their ads in FL.

[twilitez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lXD18Rv ... f0KXloZ7Dy

[Ficticious]

Thanks for the tip guys. Got a youtube video on it (A credible source looks like there's a crapload of them)? I'll try experimenting with slicex.

edit: Oh I see why they need to be Pre-eq'd. cool.

This will be helpful for finishing touches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu1MsAZb ... re=related

Nevermind.

God that video was insane by the way OP

Now I know how much of a noob I am times 3. Time to spend hours of my life looking deeper into this stuff'