WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

[jetpack]

@skerrick: You should know what is good and what is not, listening to random people on the internet could be detrimental to your music. haha.. If its deep then im going to be missing out on alot of stuff on laptop speakers.
:::raw:fourfour:: Kind of interesting beat at the beginning, not too keen on the 0:31 kick roll,, seems to not fit the groove. Not too keen on the drone sounds abit wishy washy (may be the laptop speakers) , do like the twinkly piano pieces. At the dubstep part it feels quite slow (i realise its 110bpm) The snare sounds a bit sharp and could properly do with some reverb to fill out the space (you may be going for a non-reverb snare tho as a reverbed snare is quite a cliche) Not too keen on the bass, think it could do with some interesting movement in it. (altho it may have a really nice low end im missing) . Dont really think the bass meshs with the beats well. got some nice ghosty pads in the background tho. and come 3:07 you have built up some nice ambiance. To me that bass seems to ruin it but good your experimenting.... altho i dont hear anything "experimental" about it tho.

mate if youre gonna bother reviewing someones music do it on a proper system. sorry but macbook pro speakers? im not skrillex, i dont make mid frequency wank. please post a review when youve listened on a sub. i make my bass around 50 to 60hz. youre hearing the crunch i put on the high end with a compressor. because youre using MACBOOK SPEAKERS - while im using krk's. thanks man. lemme know what you think when youve used a sub.

Don't hate on someone's review of your work. Not everybody can review/listen to songs on a club system or a decent sound system. Be happy that he's telling you how it is on his comp speakers, because more people listen to music on comp speakers than a club or big system. Modify your mix to sound good on shitty speakers, too.

[Kongret]

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Progressive 110bpm breaks/dubstep kinda thing. Almost finished, any feedback would be appreciated. Sausage fattener on master, no real mastering done.
@blinkesko
Growls need a little more volume work, they also clash with laser sounds, try bringing the overall volume of growls down and eq the sound when it plays together with lasers.
The sound seems nice overall.
You should work on the structure of your tune, breakdown at 0:52 shouldn't be there, tracks looses energy which was built nicely before it. Not really feeling the breakdown after the drop, but maybe it's just me.
@Dustwyrm
High frequency percussion really hurts my ears. You have a lot of nice ideas, but you need to work on your structure so there would be low points to appreciate the high ones. 1:16 is the drop kinda part i suppose, but the intensity doesn't rise that high since sounds are the same as before, percussion is the same and so on. You also should work on your groove and percussion, try to listen to other artist and analyze the parts which generate groove the most.
@Blak
Nice intro, pitched down vocals and breathing create nice atmosphere.
Drop needs more work though. Drums are too loud, groove isn't present yet. Sounds themselves need a little less distortion/bit crashing and more low end imho. Try to develop your drop with different stuff, it's just too long atm.

[ljk32]

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I cannot explain to you how awesome this track is, it works so well. The only things I'm not sure about is the arp at 2:02(I'm not really sure if it fits with the track, but it may just be personal taste) and the transition to the breakdown at 3:47 - that breakdown sounds like a different song to me, but again, may just be personal taste. Regardless, this is so fucking cool dude, amazing track.

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Man, I hate not being able to give feedback, there are just some times when I'm not sure what to say if an issue in the track isn't so obvious. All I really noticed is that it could be filled up a little bit more, and the mix and general sound design could be worked on. I'm sorry man, I wish I knew more so I could give you more detailed feedback.

And @Dustwyrm, honestly man, I have no idea what to say, cause I'd rather not make up bullshit feedback, so sorry about that dude.



In this track(Please read):
-Drums are too loud.
-Mix hasn't been touched yet.
-It's very empty and misses sweeps/risers and other sounds to fill it up.
-It sounds like 4 different tracks.

I'm kinda struggling with this track to finish it and make it sound like one track rather than 4, I tried a new approach where I screw the mixdown and little details, and just get the track laid out, due to a tendency of me getting stuck on tracks. Anyway:

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Please read what I said about my track before giving feedback. But regardless, I appreciate all constructive feedback, so thanks so much in advance. If you can't find any other things to add or change in the track, reaffirming what I mentioned would be great as well, cause I'd know it's a definite change.

[Kongret]

@ljk32
Thx man, glad to hear that my work has some results. Arp part after the drop is one of the thing i just can't get right, maybe a little more work will help who knows. Breakdown though is a progressive kinda thing where i try to emulate dream theater's
transition to insanity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdpCnRSeshU .Dt is much more subtle, musical and stuff, but i don't have balls to create 9 minute tracks. At least not yet

Now to your track. I like the melody but i think it needs a bit more development, it ends with the same pattern even when it reaches the transition into another part. You can climb up instead of down at every transition or something like that, a little variety never hurts.
Snare build needs velocity movement, right now it's a bit too robotic.
Part at 1:36 is really nice and atmospheric, but that strange sweeping down sound is extremely cheesy.

[ljk32]

Thanks a lot man, I'll try this all out. Except, with the melody, I know what you mean about how it doesn't have variation, but I think that may work for this particular melody, however, I'm not sure. But getting this intro right seems to be so difficult.

[wewuk]

@ljk32the clap in the build up is really soft, that could actually be turned up higher. the drop is meh, it does builb tension but then the break after it just keeps floating on. try to get a sec of silence in there.
the strange sound in the 'drop' part is kinda meh. i'm missing bass. drums are def not too loud (listen to then on my hd-25)
it actually got a really trance vibe to it, instead of a 'dubstep' vibe if you get what i mean. what you could do is instead of slowing it down is speeding it up a bit.

@kongret that's some funky stuff you got going on there. the first break comes in really suddenly, not expecting that one. the 'whistle' thingie is nice. the mix sounds good. love the horns coming in. I do feel the song is quite long. not liking the arp that comes in later. overal nice track

@blinkesko: well produced, but i'm not feeling the snare and it sounds like there is a bit too much reverb on the high hat.

@dustwyrm the high synth is idd hurting the ears. the mid-range stuff could be more defined. the other bassline just drowns when it kicks in.

@houston weather the snare sounds really dry need some working. that vocal sample is funny, but it's way too much 'there' in the mix. like the bells. the bass is allmost not there (could be bc i'm listen on headphones) it really need some mixing the idea is really nice tho

@antman: the kick/snare are meh. the closed hat is nicely done but not really liking the sound. the bass is really softish. I actually like the other sounds.

newish track, rework from my last WIP, bit kinda, meh not too happy about it. I do like the kick/snare/most percussion.
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[Augment]

@blinkesko: well produced, but i'm not feeling the snare and it sounds like there is a bit too much reverb on the high hat.

Haha, yeah, I wanted the hihat to sound almost like a ride in the intro, so there's quite alot of reverb on it the first 30secs.
Thanks for the feedback

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Man, I hate not being able to give feedback, there are just some times when I'm not sure what to say if an issue in the track isn't so obvious. All I really noticed is that it could be filled up a little bit more, and the mix and general sound design could be worked on. I'm sorry man, I wish I knew more so I could give you more detailed feedback.

Yeah, havent gotten to the final mixdown session yet, so that one was on my list. Thanks for the feedback you gave though

@blinkesko
Growls need a little more volume work, they also clash with laser sounds, try bringing the overall volume of growls down and eq the sound when it plays together with lasers.
The sound seems nice overall.
You should work on the structure of your tune, breakdown at 0:52 shouldn't be there, tracks looses energy which was built nicely before it. Not really feeling the breakdown after the drop, but maybe it's just me.

Hahah, yeah, as I said to the other guy there, havent done the final mixdown yet, so I kind of saw that coming. Haven't really thought much about the breakdown part at 0:52, only reason I put it there was that it sounds more empty than the part before it, which makes the drop sound more huge. Gonna look into this, see if there's something I can do to preserve the energy. Thanks for your feedback

[Dustwyrm]

@dustwyrm the high synth is idd hurting the ears. the mid-range stuff could be more defined. the other bassline just drowns when it kicks in.

Thanks for the review, I'll give yours a look when I get home tonight. What system were you using when listening to my track if you don't mind. By high synth do you mean those sounds that are like 'beeping' in the background? I think that's what you mean, it's weird because I get mixed opinions on that sound depending on the type of sound system being used to listen. I'm assuming you were using headphones, yes?

Thanks

[wewuk]

@dustwyrm: yes I'm using hd-25's mkII and yes I meant the 'beeping'. think a lil cut in the high end would fix that. for the mid-range, dod you do a lowpass on it?

[Dustwyrm]

@Wewuk -- Thanks, what do you recommend on cutting the high end -- possibly just tweaking from within the VST; or usuing some type of filter on it.

For the mid-range synths I did stick low pass filters on most of them, perhaps my settings aren't suited for the sound I'm looking for. I'm gonna take a look and will get back to you. Thank you for the help.

[ljk32]

Thanks everyone for the feedback .

[skerrick]

@skerrick: You should know what is good and what is not, listening to random people on the internet could be detrimental to your music. haha.. If its deep then im going to be missing out on alot of stuff on laptop speakers.
:::raw:fourfour:: Kind of interesting beat at the beginning, not too keen on the 0:31 kick roll,, seems to not fit the groove. Not too keen on the drone sounds abit wishy washy (may be the laptop speakers) , do like the twinkly piano pieces. At the dubstep part it feels quite slow (i realise its 110bpm) The snare sounds a bit sharp and could properly do with some reverb to fill out the space (you may be going for a non-reverb snare tho as a reverbed snare is quite a cliche) Not too keen on the bass, think it could do with some interesting movement in it. (altho it may have a really nice low end im missing) . Dont really think the bass meshs with the beats well. got some nice ghosty pads in the background tho. and come 3:07 you have built up some nice ambiance. To me that bass seems to ruin it but good your experimenting.... altho i dont hear anything "experimental" about it tho.

mate if youre gonna bother reviewing someones music do it on a proper system. sorry but macbook pro speakers? im not skrillex, i dont make mid frequency wank. please post a review when youve listened on a sub. i make my bass around 50 to 60hz. youre hearing the crunch i put on the high end with a compressor. because youre using MACBOOK SPEAKERS - while im using krk's. thanks man. lemme know what you think when youve used a sub.

Don't hate on someone's review of your work. Not everybody can review/listen to songs on a club system or a decent sound system. Be happy that he's telling you how it is on his comp speakers, because more people listen to music on comp speakers than a club or big system. Modify your mix to sound good on shitty speakers, too.

yeah dude im not angry at all, youve misunderstood the tone of my writing thenks to text format (internet strikes again) its just like, if someone was like, "Review my work" and i was on my laptop, my first thoguht would be; "this wont be a decent review" although i appreciate the time taken to listen to my music, giving comments on the bass when you cant hear it (again, its at 50hz/60hz) seems a bit odd.
BUT i have taken this critique into consideration (how else am i sposed to get better?) and found a cool way to add mids to my bass. upon recieving your feedback i made another dubstep tune last night. let me know what you think of this one, it took me about 3 hours.. mids should come out on laptop speakers.

http://soundcloud.com/skerrick/derpschterp

[skerrick]

@Dustwyrm: fat sounds bro, maybe just lower the kicks a tuny bit.. just like 5% or 7% but i really like the hard vibe from the beat and the sounds are fucking sick. keep it up man, every element of this screams CHOOONNNNN!!!
http://soundcloud.com/dustwyrm/dustwyrm-kill-the-dead

@Lucas Karambelas: this is sick man, really dig all your soft sounds. the drop on this has ibiza house written all over it, i dig heaps. lovely arp used. really good buildup, maybe trim the super long silence off the end of the track? i could see some lush female vocals coming in off that drop. the dive bombs work so well with the pad youve chosen. i <3 pads second drop is gorgeous too.
http://soundcloud.com/lucaskarambelas/work1

@Kongret: man this is a sick tune, got a heaps "phutureprimitive" vibe (if youve heard his shit) real mad crunch bass and sick helicopter bassnectar style rhythms. actually this reminds me a lot of bassnectar. cant really fault this one either. maybe toy with the levels a little bit and use some compression. the drop is sick too, mad hi-nrg.
http://soundcloud.com/kongret/darkness/s-IePtD

@Blinkesko: Man i dig the intro, not a huge fan of brostep, but youre doing it right. i like that you havent abused too many yoy's or screechy noises. this is definitely on the tasteful end of the brostep spectrum. but man i dig your choice of synths and everything you bring into the song works really well. got my head bouncing with this one, outro has some fat sounds, i like the way you bring it back down for the close and not ust abruptly end it as well.
http://soundcloud.com/blinkesko/3-bro-anthem/s-pTLcf

[Eye_siC]

@kongret, your song has a good vibe to it. the lead that comes in around :35 has some mids that were piercing on my monitors. overall it definitely sounds full. the production value is there and its well structured, keep it up.
@ljk32, nice ambience. track has a consistent progression thats nice. i would definitely say to bring the level up on the snare, and down just a bit on the kick. other than that, sounds good.
@wewuk, your track is nice and deep. the sample thats hitting in the higher frequencies adds so much ambience. all of the sounds are very fitting. i really cant think of anything wrong with it.
alrighty. ive been straying away from 140 music for the last couple of days. its always nice to take a break from dubstep to stay fresh.

ths first track is at 134 but its definitely different. i only bounced down the main bassline and its very dry but the idea is there, let me know what you think
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and this other wip is a drumstep tune. i put a decent amount of time into it so please point out the flaws in my production haha
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[skerrick]

@Eye-siC: man this is sick, liking the wet synth. works really well. i suggest rather than fade out the end of the song, you add a heaps downtempo section and make it really mysterious and lonely and kind of feed the end of the main rhythm/beat into it, gives it an eerie "wtf just happened" vibe.
http://soundcloud.com/eyesic/current-wip

this too man, fucking sick. actually wouldnt mind a download of this hah
http://soundcloud.com/eyesic/harsh-clip

[skerrick]

Not too keen on the bass, think it could do with some interesting movement in it. (altho it may have a really nice low end im missing) . Dont really think the bass meshs with the beats well. got some nice ghosty pads in the background tho. and come 3:07 you have built up some nice ambiance. To me that bass seems to ruin it but good your experimenting.... altho i dont hear anything "experimental" about it tho.

TRUST me man, there is a low end youre definitely missing. would actually be keen to hear your opinion though upon you hearing it through a good system, if you find the time let me know.
http://soundcloud.com/skerrick/raw-fourfour

[dotcurrency]

skerrick: Sounds nice! Good vibes man. Could be my system, but the kick lacks punch/sub in my opinion and hi hats are too loud. I think you should put some delay and make them sound distant.

Eye-siC: I like the drums a lot, melody is pretty good too! I'd like to see what you'll turn this into. But yeah, really digging the glitchy drums man, this is a melody that'd easily get stuck in someone's head for a while.

wewuk: Really good drums like you said! From what I hear, nothing is overpowering and everything seems balanced in my shitty system I'm using at the moment (ears hurt from wearing ATH50s to tight). A lot of different vibes like those bells and pads, they certainly add really nice soft feel to the track.


Well here's what I've been working on for the last hour and a half. Not so sure where to take it now, could just be because I'm tired. My sleepyness is what actually inspired me to write the orchestra parts haha, but now it's winning and I gotta go nap.

Let me know what you think guys

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[skerrick]

skerrick: Sounds nice! Good vibes man. Could be my system, but the kick lacks punch/sub in my opinion and hi hats are too loud. I think you should put some delay and make them sound distant.

which tune is this for man? if its for raw, i kind of agree, but i like the soft kicks just cos theres so much crunch in so many other aspects of the song.

if its this one youre talking about, listen through to second drop, youll hear plenty of kick, its all about the buildup my man.. i tried the kicks ting, but they were too loud and too much background bass fucks with the wobble coming off the sine bass.

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[ljk32]

Thanks so much guys .

[JTMMusicuk]

Kongret - love the drums and piano in this one, that arp is a little bit too random for me and maybe you could switch up the horns a bit more

Blinkesko that tune is heavy, mixdown is nice. For the lead riff you should try the same notes but using more than one octave to keep interest

Eye-sic its a good start but it needs something in the drums to change it starts to get tiring quickly, sub is too loud

Me Heres a new one im working on
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