feminine issues in electronic music...

[butter_man]

Who the fuck asks a stranger in a club to be a "mixing partner"?

That's not a feminine issue. Guys don't do that either.

This whole thread is a mental health issue.

as an introduction, no. but I have met many people out whether emcee's/dj's/producers who Ive clicked with straight off and have arranged a jam with after a few minutes chatting. saying that though, I too am from the sticks (similar to BM, I guess) so when like minded people meet with similar tastes its like an oasis in a cultural desert and the interests you share (seeming so unique in a place where top 40 is the expanse of mosts musical tastes) brings u together more, unlike in a place (i guess) like london, were listening to helios and borbetomagus is a more common occurence due to the size/density/access to culture/more cultured people.

[Today]

bm thread delivers

[garethom]

lol, since when has one person not being sure about how to approach somebody in a club to talk about a niche interest been an indicator of "feminine issues in electronic music"?

[chekov]

lol, since when has one person not being sure about how to approach somebody in a club to talk about a niche interest been an indicator of "feminine issues in electronic music"?

must be other issues she was hoping we'd mention, surely that can't be enough of a reason to start a thread alone

[Harkat]

Let's not get too pissed at OP tho. I'm pretty interested to see what these issues could be.

[garethom]

Probably be like the time she complained about some female DJ having a picture of herself on the cover of her mix CD, rather than some little cartoon she suggested

Turns out the problem was that the woman was attractive.

[lovelydivot]

No - The problem was that she was tarted up way beyond natural.

Even Tacosphere who knows her in real life said it was ridiculous.


Turns out your expectations are inflated.

and even worse - women perceive the expectations to be inflated.

[abelard]

if its any consolation I don't think I'd want to fuck you

[lovelydivot]

if its any consolation I don't think I'd want to fuck you

Great - Can we get past it or are you showing me the door?

[abelard]

nah I don't think we'd get along. but that's not because i'm a misogynist or unable to mix with girls I just can't see it working.

[garethom]

No - The problem was that she was tarted up way beyond natural.

Even Tacosphere who knows her in real life said it was ridiculous.

Read: In a dress.

WAIT. Tacosphere said it? Well then, my mind is changed.

Turns out your expectations are inflated.

How?

[lovelydivot]

This is not a fresh haircut and some make-up...

This is full on glamour shot and doesn't represent jungle to me...this is over the top disco diva.




Now you can argue what exactly is a jungle aesthetic - and I have a fully developed idea in my head
Maybe I'm being self-centered for expecting my perception to be correct or whatever...

But I absolutly did not think sexual exploitation was part of it in any amount.

I didn't think that a junglist female would allow that.

I was really shocked.


That insert to me - is the female equivalent of a photo of John B's crotch.

[garethom]

Somebody wants to look their best/cool on something they're selling, and you turn it into a gender issue.



Does scuba look like he's just woken up in his pants, face covered in drool from sleep? No, him and the photographer have put some effort in to make something look good, and cool. Wonder why? Because people that look shit don't sell, in any environment.

You seem to take out some frustration on women you perceive to be attractive. Might be wrong, but you take issues that are entirely with yourself and try and pin them on the world.

Ultimately, I think it's this...

Maybe I'm being self-centered

[magma]

Oh dear, here we go again.

The idea that someone isn't allowed to make themselves look what they perceive to be their "best" when they're putting possibly the only image of themselves the world will ever see into public is completely ridiculous. It's entirely up to her what she wants to do. Should we also complain when men feel the need to look all moody and tough on their album covers because of image stereotyping in the market place? At least she gets a flattering picture out of it; think about poor Burial... he's so concerned about his image that the only picture he's ever allowed out of himself looks exactly like his music feels. I bet he's well happy sometimes, but he can't let us know, the poor soul.



Mary-Anne Hobbes is usually pretty well dressed and made up. I guess she's not good enough for the scene either.

[lovelydivot]

Think of it like this....

I'm excited that a female is finally going to get her own real product out...in a genre I fully support...
I'm really interested in hearing/seeing what she is going to say to me with the material...

and I get it and it says what?

barbie

Not just once - but on every piece of graphic real estate on the thing...

It was exactly NOT what I was expecting. I was expecting something creative...


No - in all honesty - I wasn't expecting to have a reaction to the packaging at all - but when I saw it I was so weirded out.


Maybe I just had a hetero reaction - Maybe the product was for men - Smack in the face.

[EliteLennon117]

just enjoy the music

[magma]

Humans like sex. It sells. Marketing sexualises men too, but admittedly to a vastly lower degree. Unfortunately, it's part of being a creature that reproduces sexually in a social environment. Wanting to look good to the opposite sex is a perfectly natural human desire. I think about it whether indirectly or not most times I leave my bedroom. Who wouldn't want to look their best on their one shot at presenting their face to the world?

Perhaps she doesn't dig weird drawings. Perhaps she was so proud that she got her release she just wanted to put pictures of herself on it so everyone would know who she was and recognise her. Perhaps people who make art, perform it live and promote it to be seen by the world might just occasionally like.... attention....

[lovelydivot]

I told you I thoroughly enjoyed the CD and felt better about the whole thing when I got to the music part...

I was really surprized at my own reaction - I had no idea that image affected me so much.




....until it was stupid.

[lovelydivot]

I'm sitting in front of my computer making fart noises...

[butter_man]

Hire some kids for the shoot if ur afraid of being objectified. Works for her.