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Re: The dubstep is dead facebook polemics

Post by daeMTHAFKNkim » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:24 am

Phase Down wrote:^ didn't you post very recently whining about how all your friends have a girlfriend but you dont..... so in fact you are not getting any cute bitches

although I agree with you somewhat, hating on stuff like knife party but standard no original dungeon type music output self

No? And that's a fact cuz you're assuming and you know me in real life? Must be true. I'll go with what you said.

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Re: The dubstep is dead facebook polemics

Post by Phase Down » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:37 am

something about how you are always inside producing and thats how u get better blalalblablabla you could have the choice but you want to get better at producing while your mates are having girlfriends etc damn i am so sure.. 99.5% it was you, 0.5% chance it might be someone else on the forum but id take my word for sure mate

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Post by daeMTHAFKNkim » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:14 pm

Phase Down wrote:something about how you are always inside producing and thats how u get better blalalblablabla you could have the choice but you want to get better at producing while your mates are having girlfriends etc damn i am so sure.. 99.5% it was you, 0.5% chance it might be someone else on the forum but id take my word for sure mate
Oh I know what you're talking about now. Yeah it's true I don't have time for a girlfriend because I'm focused on this career/dream? That doesn't mean I don't get girls Lol? Whut.









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Post by chekov » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:21 pm

is three soundcloud players really necessary in your sig?
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Post by Ficticious » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:25 pm

house has been around for ages. I listened since I was 9 years old...That never died out. I think in my personal opinion they mean "There's a loss of soul in todays new music." Meaning, there's a loss of creativity. I still see tons of creativity in new artists though. I mean I've only been at it for 9 months...There's some people I see who make amazing stuff and it baffles me. So, obviously there's no problem with the genre.

However they have a point, I think some sounds should be reworked to a newer day and age/given a chance and just simply not made ito a newer genre but rather made into something bigger (since electronica itself yes, fuck the term edm it's lame imo.) electronica itself has grown so large.

Yes there's a lotta crap, but shit there are so many cool things you can do. so many realistic real life samples and full sounding stuff we ccan make with our knowledge. Just go ahead and make it already! stop being lazy, get out there and blow us the fuck away.

also

Analog>digital. So for those of you who have hardware or the money or any bits of hardware. PLEASE PLEASE!! use it. For those of you with recording, get irl samples. I think it's about that time.

Ps. my love for 135bpm-140bpm will never die, same goes for trance/deep house and anything else that's quite amazing (Ambient even some stuff on suicide sheeps' channel etc.)

I don't know why I bother saying so since I know this will hardly be read. but fuck it, we all have opinions and this ones mine.
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Post by Hircine » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:58 pm

Soulstep wrote:
Immerse wrote: this thread had literally nothing to do about brostep before your ass became sore. shoo
in regards to biome, i cant stand when people use this "scene is dying" bullshit. theres literally SO MUCH good music out there, fuck off if you want to use a pathetic reason like that to make new music. make what you want, period. lost a lot of respect for biome hes a great producer too
Biome wrote:I've decided if the 140bpm stuff is dying off and the next new thing to go to is supposed to be techno or house I'm gna go back to doing dnb. i need to hear some new music that excites me not 10min long loops with little glitchy perc sounds
To me it seems like a rant aimed at house and techno more than dubstep.
This. I also expected to get the views from producers about the direction the scene is taking rather than having people trying to interpretate Biome's post and spill their fanboyage all over this thread. Oh well... :lol:
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Post by Dystinkt » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:00 pm

daeMTHAFKNkim wrote:
@Cheeky blind mofukka. Go look at the posts I make and what do you know. A wild Hircine makes a smartass comment or posts my avatar as a response lmao. He's only into deep medi ****** like you. So open wide.
Come have a listen to the music I make and then tell me what I'm only into. What do I know? I'd wager a hell of a lot more than yourself mate. Apologies for derailing the thread

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Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:05 pm

ignore the ignorant.
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Post by hutyluty » Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:29 pm

Lol wow this thread.

Imo the internet means its impossible to have a proper 'scene' anymore. The way any small idea- ie. all them growly reeses in dungeon can permeate all over the world in next to no time means one can hear a certain sound wherever you are and try and copy it, quickly creating what seems to be an unoriginal "dead" scene.

I mean each of these bubbles started with some legitimately good and unique music- I'd never heard anything like Kryptic Minds' cinematic dread in their earlier releases and like a lot of people my first thought was- how do I make this? There was just so much dungeon made around that it swamped (no pun) everyone involved- same with UK bass or whatever- those first few Joy Orbison and the like's releases were amazing stuff but again so many people made similar tunes (including me) that people have become bored with it, turned off from the originators. In all likelihood people will get sick of the thousands of warehouse techno tunes made in 2013 too.

For a scene to have longevity it needs to grow naturally and locally, people feeding off each other and exploring sound tather than simply trying to make whatever is the flavour of the month on the net. For me, people doing a lot of the most interesting stuff recently have been those who are part of a local scene or t such as the tape echo collective in bristol, a stable of producers who actively seek to push things forward- hessle audio/hemlock and related artists or those whou plough lone furrows, not really referencing anything recent but their own mysterious influences like actress and ofc burial.

What biome's on about idk lol.
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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:49 pm

Well I think Kryptic Minds dubstep sound was kind of a natural evolution of their old D&B stuff they'd been doing for years as Kyrptic Minds & Leon Switch to a slower bpm.
I never got this whole dungeon term as something fresh and new as it just mainly sounds like slowed down neurofunk/techstep with dubstep drum patterns instead of dnb 2step or breaks.
I mean you didn't really hear the term when the early DnB adopters to dubstep were making the stuff, it seemed to be a recent thing by people who felt the need to be some special subgenre splinter group.
Then again that's most subgenres are, relabeling what's been done for ages so they can feel special or unique.

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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:22 pm



maybe not their most thought through work of art but my fav forever
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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:32 pm

I miss when the old guard of DnB were making dubstep, probably all be labeled dungeon or whatever now.



I always had a soft spot for Kryptic Minds & Leon Switch's old harder DnB plates, hell I have a good chunk of em -w-

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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:38 pm

tbh i was put down by tech itchs dubstep tunes his dnb stuff is so impressive and hard i expected more of a harder approach still good tunes jsut not what i expected

edit: didnt skynet start to make rnb?! or sth like that haha :o
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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:50 pm

Well I know Skynet, Tech Itch and Full Clip Audio from DOA started up a studio together for mastering and such.
Dunno if Skynet started making RnB or not.
Apparently it didn't last long since their site is down, but here's a link to the thread http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... did=612714

Have you heard Tech Itch's new stuff? http://techitch.com/album/the-machine-mind-ep
It seems to be lacking something his old stuff had that I can't put my finger on.

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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:56 pm



you mean like this :U:

haha i dunno i mean those guys had and have exeptional skills but with dubstep nearly pushing dnb totally away they seem to try to please people abit more?!
thats always bad imo
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Post by Widowmaker » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:29 pm

deadly habit wrote:Well I think Kryptic Minds dubstep sound was kind of a natural evolution of their old D&B stuff they'd been doing for years as Kyrptic Minds & Leon Switch to a slower bpm.
I never got this whole dungeon term as something fresh and new as it just mainly sounds like slowed down neurofunk/techstep with dubstep drum patterns instead of dnb 2step or breaks.
I mean you didn't really hear the term when the early DnB adopters to dubstep were making the stuff, it seemed to be a recent thing by people who felt the need to be some special subgenre splinter group.
Then again that's most subgenres are, relabeling what's been done for ages so they can feel special or unique.
Yeah this post makes most sense... however pretty much all the producers who started/make "dungeon" hate the term and think its stupid as fuck, i despise being pigeon holed into that, like blogs and stuff do when linking/posting your tunes i always see in the tags "dungeon" and its proper irritating, i make dubstep! lol.

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Post by Widowmaker » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:31 pm

+ seems like you can't make a dark tune nowadays without someone voicing their opinion on how "generic" you are or how "dungeon" it is... everyone's a critic ay! ;)

Take Wen for example, they make dark tunes.. Sick ones at that, but if it was 140 they'd probably be pigeon holed into it as well.

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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:40 pm

I think it's blog/forum/social media culture that's the main root for all these ridiculous subgenres and bullshit.
I remember reading a while back some blogger or journalist trying to dub the stuff Fly Lo did as "Aquacrunk" or some bullshit.
There never seems to be any rhyme or reason to the names or so called splits to some of these subgenres anymore besides wanting be your own special snowflake who pioneered a new subgenre.

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Post by Soul_Of_Seun » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:43 pm

Widowmaker wrote:
deadly habit wrote:Well I think Kryptic Minds dubstep sound was kind of a natural evolution of their old D&B stuff they'd been doing for years as Kyrptic Minds & Leon Switch to a slower bpm.
I never got this whole dungeon term as something fresh and new as it just mainly sounds like slowed down neurofunk/techstep with dubstep drum patterns instead of dnb 2step or breaks.
I mean you didn't really hear the term when the early DnB adopters to dubstep were making the stuff, it seemed to be a recent thing by people who felt the need to be some special subgenre splinter group.
Then again that's most subgenres are, relabeling what's been done for ages so they can feel special or unique.
Yeah this post makes most sense... however pretty much all the producers who started/make "dungeon" hate the term and think its stupid as fuck, i despise being pigeon holed into that, like blogs and stuff do when linking/posting your tunes i always see in the tags "dungeon" and its proper irritating, i make dubstep! lol.
I agree. It's a rather restrictive term.

But I don't blame people for people music into categories. Putting things into categories makes it easier describe a sound and to find similar music.
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