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You know what's funny? When old people call them "moslems"

Jayladders

Maccaveli wrote:Jayladders

How do we motivate the philistines if there not god-fearing?
Wealth?


How do we aid there spirits culturally when all good the church has to offer isnt there?


What pleasures can they derive from this earth knowing that there good actions in this life will not carry them on beyond death?

garethom wrote:You know what's funny? When old people call them "moslems"

I quite like reading old Indian politics/history and seeing "Mohammedians" and "Musselmen" everywhere.

(I do Religious Studies, I don't just look up different words for Muslim for fun)

Leave Blank wrote:

magma wrote:Just to divert for a second, sorry...

What makes you believe the Bible is God's word?

I get that Muslims believe that about the Qu'ran because it was directly dictated to Mohammed and Mormons about Joseph Smith's writings, but the Bible is fairly openly an anthology of people's experiences with God written by the people who had the experiences over the course of several centuries - most have been Sainted since, but they're definitely still humans... purely out of interest, because I've missed something, what makes you think it's actually God's word rather than Man's words about God? Is it that the writers were all directly channelling the Spirit whilst writing?

As illogical as it may or may not seem, I believe so yes. Of course I acknowledge that the bible was penned by humans however, it is divinely inspired and echoes the voice of God's spirit. I shall not go into it any more in this thread, if you wanna know more pm me.

Nah, I'm happy enough with that... just curious is all!

I'd always been told by vicars that contradictions within the text (all the instances of laws contradicting other laws) were down to human error in interpreting God's message and so personal interpretation was a big deal...

How do you deal with contradictions, especially between Old and New Testaments if you believe it's the direct word of God? Did He change his mind on certain issues after Jesus' life?

I'd appreciate if anyone who takes a literal view of the bible could explain why Jesus has two genealogies according to the gospels Luke and Matthew. Also the death of Judas is dealt with differently in Matthew and Acts. I understand that different churches maintain that it's their interpretation of the bible that is true but I don't know how inerrantists resolve the questions of the bibles inherent contradictions.

I don't know that Leave Blank is a literalist so this isn't directed specifically towards him

scspkr99 wrote:I'd appreciate if anyone who takes a literal view of the bible could explain why Jesus has two genealogies according to the gospels Luke and Matthew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus

Haha more than a life time of potential investigation here, a wasted life time. Honestly this is the most discombobulated wiki page I've ever seen.

there like 20 different stories and there all dumb

nowaysj wrote:http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html

massive tldr, only read the first bit and wasn't very happy about it

Read the rest, it gets better, if better is worse.

"God has no religion " -Gandhi

For me, Hinduism seems to be one of the most interesting in terms of how diverse it is and it's slightly widened perception of the universe,cosmology etc
Once you get passed the blue people with lots of arms and elephants and realize they're personifications of ideals and traits it starts to make a bit more sense.

Christianity and the abrahamic religions have always been "too" dualistic .
Although there is some wisdom in there. A lot of religion is like a hand me down jumper that was outgrown years ago but is still worn cos conceptual nakedness is too dangerous for the dictatorship of the ego to face.

Every single religion came from the same source that all life and the universe did.

People made religion to find god and separated and segregated themselves in the process. The irony is that its the coming together of all people is when god is truly "born" (paraphrased from someone I don't remember)

d-T-r wrote:A lot of religion is like a hand me down jumper that was outgrown years ago but is still worn cos conceptual nakedness is too dangerous for the dictatorship of the ego to face.

Good to see you posting again d-T-r, I've missed your insights

There are many religions,
There is one gospel.
Religions are man's search for God
The Gospel is God's search for man.

Some Christian geezer whose name escapes me said this, referring to the Biblical gospel. But I think it makes a lot of sense if you replace "gospel" with "truth". Seems to me that the truth is holy in itself, in the Upanisads, "The Good", "The Real" and "The True" all mean the same thing...Something to think about

True that ^

Have had no net at home for a while so not been on much. Getting it back within the week so I'm sure I'll be in sight...ing!

I am shallowly religious. I only let someone read me the bible if she has massive tits.

Kochari wrote:

d-T-r wrote:A lot of religion is like a hand me down jumper that was outgrown years ago but is still worn cos conceptual nakedness is too dangerous for the dictatorship of the ego to face.

Good to see you posting again d-T-r, I've missed your insights

There are many religions,
There is one gospel.
Religions are man's search for God
The Gospel is God's search for man.

Some Christian geezer whose name escapes me said this, referring to the Biblical gospel. But I think it makes a lot of sense if you replace "gospel" with "truth". Seems to me that the truth is holy in itself, in the Upanisads, "The Good", "The Real" and "The True" all mean the same thing...Something to think about

nail on head. truth, and the search for it, is everything