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Nah, we're still waiting for a Archie Duke to shoot an ostrich because he's hungry.

magma wrote:ering why you'd not predicted the start of WW3 yet; this all seems right up your alley.

not sure what you mean by that, without it going full blown WW3, can't see this ending well

I'm known as the snh warmonger, I had a thread called ww3 or something, wherein I concluded we are already at war, although full on conflagration has not started, but is likely to start. The tensions have been set.

yeah, if by WW3 you mean a variety of proxy wars (cf.Syria, Iraq, Mali, Congo etc, and probably Ukraine soon, maybe Venezuela as well) i'm with you on this one

On top of currency wars and cyber wars.

nowaysj wrote:I'm known as the snh warmonger, I had a thread called ww3 or something, wherein I concluded we are already at war, although full on conflagration has not started, but is likely to start. The tensions have been set.

lol i've only just realised, how can you say i am calling for the destruction of humanity when every 5 minutes it's WW3 for you?

nowaysj wrote: but is likely to start

I've heard you say this so many times, THERE IS NO WOLF GODDAMIT.

dem proxy wars.....

also

ruxssia amasses troops in massive military exercise right near ukrainian border

russia wrote:nope, totally unrelated

Tbh, I think this is the closest thing we've had to an actual spark since I've known you. It's certainly bumping the Cold War up a few degrees from absolute zero, especially with Crimea looking like they might try and secede, but I still don't think it'll get hot. It's a Yugoslavia situation at worst for me right now... could be absolutely horrific, but I doubt it'll spread too far.

Of course, people said that in 1914 too.

m8son wrote:

nowaysj wrote:I'm known as the snh warmonger, I had a thread called ww3 or something, wherein I concluded we are already at war, although full on conflagration has not started, but is likely to start. The tensions have been set.

lol i've only just realised, how can you say i am calling for the destruction of humanity when every 5 minutes it's WW3 for you?

My concerns about a catastrophic global military conflict are founded in my concern about the future of humanity on this planet. I think there is an ever growing chance we will be one of the last generations. I, unlike you, do not want that to be the case.

@magma Yes people also said that in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013...

Do you reckon a bookies would let me bet on world war not starting this year?

nowaysj wrote:My concerns about a catastrophic global military conflict are founded in my concern about the future of humanity on this planet. I think there is an ever growing chance we will be one of the last generations. I, unlike you, do not want that to be the case.

Fingers crossed for TOTAL ANNIHILATION

Humans somehow managing to make themselves extinct is a pretty likely outcome I would say

bennyfroobs wrote:ruxssia amasses troops in massive military exercise right near ukrainian border

russia wrote:nope, totally unrelated

This sort of stuff seems a bit daft to me though. A standing army's job is to be prepared for everything they have any chance of being thrown into... whatever is currently happening in Ukraine and however likely it is to truly spill out, there is clearly the outside chance that bordering nations could get dragged in and Russia as the closest neighbour and nearest Superpower is more likely than anyone else. Upping military exercises is perfectly normal - if France or Eire overthrew their government in a violent rebellion tomorrow, OUR army would be cacking itself and would certainly be preparing itself for all possible contingencies.

m8son wrote:@magma Yes people also said that in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013...

Do you reckon a bookies would let me bet on world war not starting this year?

That's the problem with prophecies of doom... an element of *every* generation has thought it was going to be one of the last. No matter how far back in written history you look, there's a nowaysj saying "WE'VE GONE TOO FAR, THE END IS NIIIIIIGHHHHH!"

It's a shame the internet was invented he could of been on the streets wearing a sandwich board holding a megaphone.

magma wrote:That's the problem with prophecies of doom... an element of *every* generation has thought it was going to be one of the last. No matter how far back in written history you look, there's a nowaysj saying "WE'VE GONE TOO FAR, THE END IS NIIIIIIGHHHHH!"

This consistently frustrates me as being a really stupid argument. For all those prior generations there was no real possibility that one person, or one nation could utterly destroy the human world. It is only in the last few generations that we've developed the means to actually do just that. So a concern about that possibility is not just founded, it is warranted. We've almost done it accidentally for christ's sake. If that doesn't give you legitimate concern... I'm trying to go to bed. I don't need to get mad at you now magma.

nowaysj wrote:

magma wrote:That's the problem with prophecies of doom... an element of *every* generation has thought it was going to be one of the last. No matter how far back in written history you look, there's a nowaysj saying "WE'VE GONE TOO FAR, THE END IS NIIIIIIGHHHHH!"

This consistently frustrates me as being a really stupid argument. For all those prior generations there was no real possibility that one person, or one nation could utterly destroy the human world. It is only in the last few generations that we've developed the means to actually do just that. So a concern about that possibility is not just founded, it is warranted. We've almost done it accidentally for christ's sake. If that doesn't give you legitimate concern... I'm trying to go to bed. I don't need to get mad at you now magma.

This IMO, we never used to have the ability to do silly amounts of damage and now it happens by accident

Terpit wrote:

nowaysj wrote:

magma wrote:That's the problem with prophecies of doom... an element of *every* generation has thought it was going to be one of the last. No matter how far back in written history you look, there's a nowaysj saying "WE'VE GONE TOO FAR, THE END IS NIIIIIIGHHHHH!"

This consistently frustrates me as being a really stupid argument. For all those prior generations there was no real possibility that one person, or one nation could utterly destroy the human world. It is only in the last few generations that we've developed the means to actually do just that. So a concern about that possibility is not just founded, it is warranted. We've almost done it accidentally for christ's sake. If that doesn't give you legitimate concern... I'm trying to go to bed. I don't need to get mad at you now magma.

This IMO, we never used to have the ability to do silly amounts of damage and now it happens by accident

Sure, yet we currently have more people alive with a higher life expectancy than at any time in human history.

The worst modern man-made atrocities have killed millions from a population of billions - The Holocaust claimed something like 10 million people... absolutely horrific and with unimaginable efficiency compared to earlier times... the A-Bomb at Hiroshima killed around 100,000... these were both from a worldwide population of around 2.5 Billion.

In comparison, the Black Death killed something up to 200 million humans from a population of 400 million. That's nearly HALF of the world population. In Europe, something like 70% of the population was wiped out.

Based on those sorts of numbers repeating themselves all throughout human history, the people predicting apocalyptic doom being doled out from a vengeful God are much more likely to be 'proved right' than those predicting it'll come from a man made source. I'd take a doom-monger from 1492 over one from 2014 any day of the week.

Yeah, there's the outside chance that someone could press a single button and set off a chain reaction that ends humanity, but honestly? Nature has always been and still is the biggest threat to us... humans live safer, longer and healthier lives than ever before and I see no reason for that trend to stop.

I don't think that this will leading to a third world war, but more to an cold war where eventually Ukraine will be splitted in two. Russia doesn't even have to do effort if they wanna do that.

And plz, stop being such a pessimist. The last thing that a country wants is a direct war, even a superpower like Russia.

The technology isn't there yet. But one day, synthetic virus, black hole machine, weapons beyond atomic...