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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:34 pm
by fractal
Ory wrote:
It's a fact that the US has a weak electronic scene compared to Europe.
im curious as to when the last time you came partying over here was? surely to state something like that as a fact you must have been here a lot, coast to coast, right?
this thread is hillarious! i love when people get into territorial pissing contests, ie. country A has way better music than country B, ive listened to every tune and i know!!! there's so much going on underground in each city/country and truely, unless youve lived there, you dont know.
big up everyone who's not talking nonsense
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:36 pm
by dubzach
+TORMENT+ wrote:OMFG... dubstepforum has reached a new low.
The new DOA?

... Im slowly starting to think so. Whats up with the old guard and there geographical musical explanations??

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:42 pm
by deapoh
I only read the first page but as a few people said I think it's all about the British accent for Grime. I have heard a few sick American MCs over Grime though so it can work, as long as the DJ and MC are tight. I think certain people miss that connection in the studio.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:14 pm
by pompende
Deapoh wrote:I only read the first page but as a few people said I think it's all about the British accent for Grime. I have heard a few sick American MCs over Grime though so it can work, as long as the DJ and MC are tight. I think certain people miss that connection in the studio.
yesssss...
not to start any more beef but I really think that the massive popularity of commercial rap has really skewed almost everyone's perception of what the music actually is (or was)...
so i wouldn't mind at all if americans started using grime as a way of getting back to what made mc and dj culture so sick to begin with
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:19 pm
by pompende
dubzach wrote:+TORMENT+ wrote:OMFG... dubstepforum has reached a new low.
The new DOA?

... Im slowly starting to think so. Whats up with the old guard and there geographical musical explanations??

haha!...coz that's how it happens homeboy. you can't fly out to london for every DMZ so you start your own scene but then you have to tailor it to suit the tastes of the crowd in your town. then if it starts blowing up you start making tunes for your town and then there you go...its a new sound.
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:28 am
by breathe beats
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:45 am
by jimitheexploder
Dude fuck the scene...
If you wana spit bars on a grime track and you happen to be from the US just do it.
Hell...
I'm off to go and infultrate the Iraqi hobo beat box scene catch ya later, yeah?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:47 pm
by dubzach
jimitheexploder wrote:Dude fuck the scene...
If you wana spit bars on a grime track and you happen to be from the US just do it.
Hell...
I'm off to go and infultrate the Iraqi hobo beat box scene catch ya later, yeah?
werd.. thanx for the positive input, Im working on some bars now. I got a good one Im going to do just to introduce myself a bit by spittin on a well known grime instrumental. I have a bunch of beats ive been working on as well with diff topics mostyl ranging to rising poverty all across the globe, and kids destroying neighborhoods and whatnot.
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:48 pm
by dubzach
Im going to give away a few tracks for download free soon! Watch this space!
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:52 pm
by dubzach
alwayz recordings have some wicked mc's... My alltime fav grime mc is skepta so far. Anyone catch Dot Rotten leaving the studio of Logan Sama cause of his shit mixing?? Classic!
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:03 am
by bright maroon

wrong thread..back to the ninja room for me...
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:37 am
by sixteen
quit crying about it.
drum and bass and grime will always be known coming from london/europe.
stop trying to take that from them.
get over it.
when you think otherwise watch that shit slime back in. boom head shot.
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:54 am
by nimbus
as far as i can see noone started getting territorial, all ory was saying is rep ur location, do what u do, over whatever beat u wanna ride.
noone was saying that grime doesnt belong outside london, they were simply saying that its percieved as small outside ldn
noone is attacking the US man a man so dont get defensive!
we're all here for the music not the beef.
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:09 am
by sixteen
ok ok.
but i guess the rules of where it should go should be left to the originators and the listeners(which can be outside of the original birth location)
infact what we should do is bitch about synths and sound wavs. because these elements and much more are what created grime, dub step, and even drum and bass.
even human vocals. we should bitch about who owns human vocals.
KEEP DAT SHIT TO UM. oH FUCK.
WELL UM.
YEAH SYNTHS AND COMPUTERS. KEEP THAT SHIT IN UNITED KINGDOMS. WE MADE THAT SHIT. YALL KNOCK OFF. RIGHT NOW.
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:41 am
by ory
nimbus wrote:all ory was saying is rep ur location
well I was more commenting on USA's rejection of rave in favour of hip-hop, and the effects it's had to this day... but whatever.

should always try to bring your own sound, no matter where in the world you are.
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:07 am
by feasible_weasel
forget genre names..........................
listen to axiom ep by d goodz, hes a grime mc spitting to dubstep.
spit to the riddims you like.
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:52 am
by fractal
Ory wrote:nimbus wrote:all ory was saying is rep ur location
well I was more commenting on USA's rejection of rave in favour of hip-hop, and the effects it's had to this day... but whatever.

should always try to bring your own sound, no matter where in the world you are.
hip hop and electronic music have always fed off and inspired each other, and both are better for it

you're def right about coming up with your own sound
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:23 pm
by sixteen
i am sorry but i fail to see anything original with dubstep.
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:27 pm
by fractal
sixteen wrote:i am sorry but i fail to see anything original with dubstep.
well its a rellative isnt it? no music is truley original without outside influence or borrowed ideas... where do you line? whats considered "original" to you?
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:16 pm
by slothrop
sixteen wrote:ok ok.
but i guess the rules of where it should go should be left to the originators and the listeners(which can be outside of the original birth location)
Like when all the Detroit originators hated what the UK was doing with acid / rave styles - should've been
shut down there and then and we wouldn't have had any of this 'drums and bass' or 'dub step' fucking things up.