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spooKs wrote:

fooishbar wrote:

braiden wrote:To me one of the best things about dubstep music is that it isn't a relentless type of 'dance music' like most club music styles out there. I love the fact that someone like kode9 can drop a tune like 9samurai which isnt really a dance tune at all, without fear of losing the attention of the crowd. Hopefully the scene wont turn into DJs feeling they have to constantly play 'sick tunes to brock out to' just to keep the crowd enticed.

haha, oh well

haha

thinking wrote:Is there too much about right now?

i too have been thinking this. why can't more dubstep be like benga & skream's track "the judgement"? i mean that was a sick tune. really nice bassline and the faster sounding 2-step rhythm really worked.

Seems like there is more non half step being released at the moment. Some of my favourite recent releases are not half step e.g. Untold, Joy Orbison, Swarms etc

i think dubstep has prity much mainly always been mostly half step but i think as time has gone on, more and more stepper beats have been geting popular, i think more garagey 2 step beats etc and more jungle influenced breaks have been used alot in the last 2/3 years. to many names to even start to mention really

dubstepjack wrote:i think dubstep has prity much mainly always been mostly half step but i think as time has gone on, more and more stepper beats have been geting popular, i think more garagey 2 step beats etc and more jungle influenced breaks have been used alot in the last 2/3 years. to many names to even start to mention really

do some research matey. thats straight up bollocks ur chatting

dubstepjack wrote:i think dubstep has prity much mainly always been mostly half step but i think as time has gone on, more and more stepper beats have been geting popular, i think more garagey 2 step beats etc and more jungle influenced breaks have been used alot in the last 2/3 years. to many names to even start to mention really

This thread is from 2006, when people were complaining about too MUCH halfstep.

dubstepjack wrote: prity much mainly always been mostly

Please can someone tell me what halfstep is?

curse wrote:Please can someone tell me what halfstep is?

well, when counting 1,2,3,4 in 1 bar, the snare will hit on the 3rd beat as opposed to hitting on the 2nd and 4th. this makes the tempo feel slower which is why it's called that. this is what i was told about halfstep. there's some correct way of putting it but that is pretty much it i think

Halfstep...hmmmh???
It's clear to see that the style has been imitated thousands of times by unimaginative producers world wide that have little creative ability or true talent,all striving for a place in a "scene" - leave it to the pioneers and veterans that started it back when it was fresh...come with something original that you can call your own.

Imo most (not all) dances these days are suffering from a distinct lack of any real rhythm because of the over use of that format - a large number of tracks you'll hear are composed of basic percussion structures that lack complexity,feeling or diversity. I started raving in the days of Jungle and Garage and the interaction between the music,Dj and crowd we're on a different level from what i've experienced at most Dubstep nights - which yes have enegy,but that which i can best describe as a crowd of Halfstepping zombies,nodding to a metronome of wobble and chainsaw.

Is there too much Halfstep? I think the original date of this post and how relevant it still is answers the question.

Rant over ...

However on the positive there's a whole lot of groundbreaking music being produced at the heart of the underground if you look for it and I think "Dubstep" may be going through a significant transitional period in it's musicality as a scene.

Big up the pioneers of the future!

spooKs wrote:

fooishbar wrote:

braiden wrote:To me one of the best things about dubstep music is that it isn't a relentless type of 'dance music' like most club music styles out there. I love the fact that someone like kode9 can drop a tune like 9samurai which isnt really a dance tune at all, without fear of losing the attention of the crowd. Hopefully the scene wont turn into DJs feeling they have to constantly play 'sick tunes to brock out to' just to keep the crowd enticed.

haha, oh well

haha

LOL that's the fourth time on DSF I've seen something like this...some old thread.

doesn't matter wat "step u have as long as u got a step, something that'll keep ur beat moving, too many tend to put all the emphasis on the actual beats (1234) IMO.

Check out the 2nd track in my sig, i reckon this is wat i mean by a step, still "halfstep", but it moves (obv from the drop...)

in b4 shameless self promotion

Tragic Gash wrote:
in b4 shameless self promotion

mate, sick tune

Tragic Gash wrote:doesn't matter wat "step u have as long as u got a step, something that'll keep ur beat moving, too many tend to put all the emphasis on the actual beats (1234) IMO.

Check out the 2nd track in my sig, i reckon this is wat i mean by a step, still "halfstep", but it moves (obv from the drop...)

in b4 shameless self promotion

Oh you BASTARD I've been meaning to use that sample from Network for years... in fact I did use it in a hip hop track that I never finished, then lost on a corrupted hard drive in 1997 or so

Ah well you've done it more justice than I did - good track!

alias123 wrote:

Tragic Gash wrote:
in b4 shameless self promotion

mate, sick tune

cheers mate

joe muggs wrote:

Tragic Gash wrote:doesn't matter wat "step u have as long as u got a step, something that'll keep ur beat moving, too many tend to put all the emphasis on the actual beats (1234) IMO.

Check out the 2nd track in my sig, i reckon this is wat i mean by a step, still "halfstep", but it moves (obv from the drop...)

in b4 shameless self promotion

Oh you BASTARD I've been meaning to use that sample from Network for years... in fact I did use it in a hip hop track that I never finished, then lost on a corrupted hard drive in 1997 or so

Ah well you've done it more justice than I did - good track!

lol sorry man, it is a sick sample tho, and like 1 million people have used the get mad one so felt it was bein under represented glad u liked it tho, cheers

personally half time beats are what brought me into the genre. it totally reminded me of heavy sounding hip hop beats, but more grimey and dirty.

the 2step garage stuff is just plain boring imo. not to down with that vibe. personally i think the reason dubstep has gotten so much recognition is because of the halfstep jump up shit. it just seems so out there as a genre of electronic music while 2step stuff seems like nothing spectacular or original.

chronicrecords wrote:personally half time beats are what brought me into the genre. it totally reminded me of heavy sounding hip hop beats, but more grimey and dirty.

the 2step garage stuff is just plain boring imo. not to down with that vibe. personally i think the reason dubstep has gotten so much recognition is because of the halfstep jump up shit. it just seems so out there as a genre of electronic music while 2step stuff seems like nothing spectacular or original.

nonse

yeah man its SO out there dude... like when the jump up shit goes crazy and wild and out there what with this lfo thing and then the big snare and shit , totally dude , its really out tehre!

Deepside wrote:Halfstep...hmmmh???
It's clear to see that the style has been imitated thousands of times by unimaginative producers world wide that have little creative ability or true talent,all striving for a place in a "scene" - leave it to the pioneers and veterans that started it back when it was fresh...come with something original that you can call your own.

Imo most (not all) dances these days are suffering from a distinct lack of any real rhythm because of the over use of that format - a large number of tracks you'll hear are composed of basic percussion structures that lack complexity,feeling or diversity. I started raving in the days of Jungle and Garage and the interaction between the music,Dj and crowd we're on a different level from what i've experienced at most Dubstep nights - which yes have enegy,but that which i can best describe as a crowd of Halfstepping zombies,nodding to a metronome of wobble and chainsaw.

Is there too much Halfstep? I think the original date of this post and how relevant it still is answers the question.

Rant over ...

However on the positive there's a whole lot of groundbreaking music being produced at the heart of the underground if you look for it and I think "Dubstep" may be going through a significant transitional period in it's musicality as a scene.

Big up the pioneers of the future!

Theres is alot of sick halfstep about still, its just most of the shit stuff that you see happens to use a halfstep pattern.

Look at Kryptic Minds, Seven, Breakage, Distance, SP:MC, Cyrus, Verse etc. etc. and then tell me theres "a distinct lack of any real rhythm".

People relying on varying LFO rates to give there tunes movement and rhythm and then dropping a boring-as-fuck kick...snare...kick...snare over the top is the problem.

Interesting percussion is very important, but halfstep and interesting percussion are not mutually exclusive!

wooda916 wrote:
People relying on varying LFO rates to give there tunes movement and rhythm and then dropping a boring-as-fuck kick...snare...kick...snare over the top is the problem.

Interesting percussion is very important, but halfstep and interesting percussion are not mutually exclusive!

i agree entirely