The Ableton Q&A Thread

86. · Post by **86.** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:17 pm

^^ Ive downloaded one....the blue and orange one.

the screenshots make them like a bit Crayola-ish....but I figure its just a bad pic.

benh · Post by **benh** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:16 pm

so, i have an mp3 loaded into ableton, and i have a section of that which i want to ''export'' to a separate clip (or mp3?) so that i can grab different parts of this song as different clips.

so far it seems i just have to duplicate my original mp3 loads of times and crop each one to the part that i want... (very time consuming when i am looking at as little as 4bar pieces of the song)

anyway heres a screenshot
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2755/okokok.png

thanks for any help on the matter!

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:29 pm

duplicate and crop? doesnt take much time

or you could have a new audio track routed from that same track (I/0 Settings Audio from: "1 Audio")
then as it is playing hit record and play when you want to end the loop

benh · Post by **benh** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:32 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:or you could have a new audio track routed from that same track (I/0 Settings Audio from: "1 Audio")
then as it is playing hit record and play when you want to end the loop

ahh of course, i had a mental block there. thanks dood

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:40 pm

Wow, follow actions was really easy to figure out.

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:05 pm

86 Position wrote:Wow, follow actions was really easy to figure out.

lots of fun too, you can get some severely glitchy breaks if you write drums with follow actions on 0.0.1 (next) mode

for a less practical use:
i loaded up 300 loops i had made over the last few years and put them all on legato and "any" follow actions mode....

complete randomness...awesome. and it was funny to see all the lights blinking incredibly fast

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:29 pm

^^what do you use for drums, Drum Rack?

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:33 pm

86 Position wrote:^^what do you use for drums, Drum Rack?

drum racks mostly. i love it. choke groups = <3
or just drop the sounds into session view and link them with follow actions

you gotta keep the numbers in your head tho ".0.0.1 x 4= one beat etc so if i have a kick on 0.1.2. i can throw in 2 hihats or something at 0.0.1"

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:11 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:
86 Position wrote:^^what do you use for drums, Drum Rack?
drum racks mostly. i love it. choke groups = <3
or just drop the sounds into session view and link them with follow actions

you gotta keep the numbers in your head tho ".0.0.1 x 4= one beat etc so if i have a kick on 0.1.2. i can throw in 2 hihats or something at 0.0.1"

I'm warming up to drum rack...never bothered to get into it much in the beginning. But it's sweet.

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:23 pm

86 Position wrote: I'm warming up to drum rack...never bothered to get into it much in the beginning. But it's sweet.

there are so many uses for drum racks its nuts...you can even have a drum rack inside of a drum rack!!! so you can drum rack while you drum rack...dawg

but seriously read the manual on choke groups, drop like 16 bass samples in there with long release times, so when you trigger them they play out, but when you trigger another sample it cuts the original off and plays that one instead...

also used for that open/shut hihat effect so if you hit an open hihat sound, then a closed the open stops playing

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:34 pm

your tunes are sick homes, especially collective unconscious and pack ye bags, ye bowls

EDIT: pack ye bags is a few songs tho

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:41 pm

86 Position wrote:your tunes are sick homes, especially collective unconscious and pack ye bags, ye bowls

EDIT: pack ye bags is a few songs tho

thanks man!

i got some pure dubstep up in the dubs section ( http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=103542 ) if you are interested
yea man its a mix"tape", thanks for checkin it out!

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:51 pm

on the DL now.

so you've been a long-time supporter of Ableton?

and I like how we the only ones keeping this thread going.

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:57 pm

86 Position wrote:on the DL now.

so you've been a long-time supporter of Ableton?

and I like how we the only ones keeping this thread going.

and keep it going we shall!

i was a big FL guy at first, but ableton was perfect for improvisation and laying down riffs from audio much much easier so i made the switch
took me forever to make something decent on it tho, i kept getting sidetracked by all the fun little things to do

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:11 pm

I came from ACID...to me, Ableton is like the program ACID could have been, but wasted too much time not becoming. It wasn't too hard for me to pick up Live....maybe 2 hrs or so, I think both programs are kind of similar. But for the first 15 min I was like "what the hell is all this". The session view, clips business tripped me out. I'm only recently understanding how much better it is than dealing strictly with arrange view (thanks to Drum racks)

jjbutler88 · Post by **jjbutler88** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:21 pm

I'm new into ableton 8, and loving it to bits already. I got some very odd (and disgusted) looks from my music tech mates (I have a computing background) when I switched from logic to ableton but I find its a lot nicer to use (from an understanding the signal flow perspective mostly) and I can get my ideas down faster. I rarely find myself using external plugins with ableton as well, as in logic I never used the inbuilts (probably a mistake).

Watched that El-B production masterclass, where he was talking about sub-bass compression, limiting the top end with a compressor, and boosting the low end up to meet it with another compressor. Couldn't you do both with a multiband dynamics plugin in ableton? Had a go but just ended up distorting a sine wave

Rickmansworth · Post by **Rickmansworth** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:07 pm

86 Position wrote:I came from ACID...to me, Ableton is like the program ACID could have been, but wasted too much time not becoming. It wasn't too hard for me to pick up Live....maybe 2 hrs or so, I think both programs are kind of similar. But for the first 15 min I was like "what the hell is all this". The session view, clips business tripped me out. I'm only recently understanding how much better it is than dealing strictly with arrange view (thanks to Drum racks)

session view is great... just arrange your layers a few minutes, press record and just click away row by row. after that, bust open your arrangement for the final mixdown (the part i hate!)

personally, i prefer live jamming much more than structuring tunes... recently, ive started to bounce all my midi tracks into an audio track so i have a saved loop. this way, its easy to create a 'master set'... this is pretty fun as you can then just trigger whatever you want without using a ton of CPU.

my roommate and i are in the process of organizing 1 master set between the two of us so we can just have an epic jam (we sync our ableton tempo clocks and share a mixer to the output). we sort of have a big set going now, however, with what we have saved so far, we can only cover about 30-40 min (yet we seamlessly cross through several genres like dubstep, dnb, reggae, electro, trance, hiphop). once we have our supersets all ready to go and get APC40s, the gigs should come rolling in

rawali · Post by **rawali** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:21 pm

is there a way to save multiple midi mapping schemes in live, and load a new one without ever cutting the audio...

Here is my situation (perhaps I'm doing something dumb and overlooking something extremely obvious?) I use live with an mpd-24 with a drummer and signer... I cut my tunes up by scene (intro, drop, bridge... etc) and group the instruments (bass, synth, drums). I use the controller to go from scene to scene and use the rest of the shit as volume of effect control... All the tunes should be in the same project since I dont want the music to stop between tunes obviously...

Now... this is all working nice but I've only got 4 pages worth of pads (so 4 scenes per page x 4 pages comes to 16)... considering I'm using about 6 or 7 scenes per tune... I need to find a way to change the mappings once I reach scene 16... erm? how?

86. · Post by **86.** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:45 pm

^^ beyond me...lol, still learning.

but hey I'm moving up to Live 8 within the next week, some of you are students right? you got the discount?

jjbutler88 · Post by **jjbutler88** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:38 pm

rawali wrote:is there a way to save multiple midi mapping schemes in live, and load a new one without ever cutting the audio...

Here is my situation (perhaps I'm doing something dumb and overlooking something extremely obvious?) I use live with an mpd-24 with a drummer and signer... I cut my tunes up by scene (intro, drop, bridge... etc) and group the instruments (bass, synth, drums). I use the controller to go from scene to scene and use the rest of the shit as volume of effect control... All the tunes should be in the same project since I dont want the music to stop between tunes obviously...

Now... this is all working nice but I've only got 4 pages worth of pads (so 4 scenes per page x 4 pages comes to 16)... considering I'm using about 6 or 7 scenes per tune... I need to find a way to change the mappings once I reach scene 16... erm? how?

Maybe change your midi channel? You should be able to send midi on 16 different channels, you will need to map each channel though

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