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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by Genevieve » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:09 pm

hugh wrote:well I'm still not buying it, I really think the writers fucked it up right there.
This was probably conceived before the pilot of the show was even shot. You don't have to like it, but I don't think it was some 'LOL ADD SUSPENSE TO DRAW OUT THE SHOW' type of thing. The show was never intended to jump the shark. Todd said it himself 'you thought of everything!', cue to Walt's self-satisfied grin. Walt DIDN'T think of everything though, including something as SIMPLE as the possinility of there being witnesses, let alone Todd shooting the damn witness.
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by hugh » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:16 pm

Genevieve wrote:
hugh wrote:well I'm still not buying it, I really think the writers fucked it up right there.
This was probably conceived before the pilot of the show was even shot. You don't have to like it, but I don't think it was some 'LOL ADD SUSPENSE TO DRAW OUT THE SHOW' type of thing. The show was never intended to jump the shark. Todd said it himself 'you thought of everything!', cue to Walt's self-satisfied grin. Walt DIDN'T think of everything though, including something as SIMPLE as the possinility of there being witnesses, let alone Todd shooting the damn witness.
I dunno, Breaking Bad is the kind of show with a storyline that sort of forces you to suspend disbelief to get into it in the first place. The last thing it needs to do is remind the viewer of this.
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by BLAHBLAHJAH » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:17 pm

Any fans interested in a pencil Walter White? Choose a size and I'll give a [discounted] price.
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by yoowan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:35 pm

i recently read a book about psychopathy which mentioned the bob hare psychopath check list, the PCL-R

watching breaking bad today, i realised how much of a complete and utter psycopath walt is in terms of personality (not really in case history)

  • -Glibness/superficial charm
    yes
    -Grandiose sense of self-worth
    yes
    -Pathological lying
    yes
    -Cunning/manipulative
    yes
    -Lack of remorse or guilt
    yes
    -Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric)
    yes
    -Callousness; lack of empathy
    yes
    -Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
    yes
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by RandomEyez » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:21 pm

yoowan wrote:i recently read a book about psychopathy which mentioned the bob hare psychopath check list, the PCL-R

watching breaking bad today, i realised how much of a complete and utter psycopath walt is in terms of personality (not really in case history)

  • -Glibness/superficial charm
    yes
    -Grandiose sense of self-worth
    yes
    -Pathological lying
    yes
    -Cunning/manipulative
    yes
    -Lack of remorse or guilt
    yes
    -Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric)
    yes
    -Callousness; lack of empathy
    yes
    -Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
    yes
The Psychopath Test i'm guessing???

I've just finished that book and i'm psychopath-spotting all the time now. Great fun, until I realised my girlfriend might be one :o

But keeping it on topic, Walt definitely ticks all the boxes. Lost all empathy towards him along time ago as these traits became more and more obvious. Who is he really doing all this for now? He's a tnuc. A clever one, but still a tnuc.

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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by yoowan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:21 pm

yeah!! jon ronson is the man

walt is doing it for himself and thinks that skylar will be impressed with his new meth operation, reuniting the family

-Grandiose sense of self-worth
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by hugh » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:32 pm

BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:Any fans interested in a pencil Walter White? Choose a size and I'll give a [discounted] price.
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did you draw that? It's really good! :Q:
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Post by noam » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:25 pm

yoowan wrote:i recently read a book about psychopathy which mentioned the bob hare psychopath check list, the PCL-R

watching breaking bad today, i realised how much of a complete and utter psycopath walt is in terms of personality (not really in case history)

  • -Glibness/superficial charm
    yes
    -Grandiose sense of self-worth
    yes
    -Pathological lying
    yes
    -Cunning/manipulative
    yes
    -Lack of remorse or guilt
    yes
    -Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and egocentric)
    yes
    -Callousness; lack of empathy
    yes
    -Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
    yes
Heisenberg, Yes. Walt, No.

the show progresses as Walt and Heisenberg become one person, and ultimately, if there is ever a downfall it is when the two become each other and cracks in both show through the altar ego's

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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by kentnz » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:50 am

Genevieve wrote: The show was never intended to jump the shark.
I recon it was heading that way in season 3 but the writers have sorted it out since then.
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Post by pkay » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:00 am

Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg

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Post by Mammoth » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:04 am

pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg
Yes :h:
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by pkay » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:09 am

Mammoth wrote:
pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg
Yes :h:

Would so love this

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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by Mammoth » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:01 am

pkay wrote:
Mammoth wrote:
pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg
Yes :h:

Would so love this
I was just thinking about in the early episodes all the pictures of Walter with the hat on in Mexico. Hank could easily be a bald guy in a hat
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by noam » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:04 am

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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by noam » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:04 am

Mammoth wrote:
pkay wrote:
Mammoth wrote:
pkay wrote:Walt plants hat Hank gets penned as heisenberg
Yes :h:

Would so love this
I was just thinking about in the early episodes all the pictures of Walter with the hat on in Mexico. Hank could easily be a bald guy in a hat
so how does anyone in the DEA know anything at all about what Heisenberg looks like...??

or is it anythin to do with the Cartels which have been strangely quiet, tho i spose most of em were killed off

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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by Lystric » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:48 pm

^^^all the stuff about the hats.

Series Finale: Mike, Walt, Jesse. all bald, obviously, wearing hats and glasses. Hank doesn't know who to chase :lol:

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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by hugh » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:11 pm

Hank doesn't know anything about chemistry theres surely no way he could be set up.
I can't see how any of this is going to end well though :lol:
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by yoowan » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:13 pm

Series finale: everyone in new mexico shaves their head and wears a hat after heisenberg blows up the dea's office
criticisms could arise from the fact that it's identical to v for vendetta but whatever
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by hugh » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:16 pm

yoowan wrote:Series finale: everyone in new mexico shaves their head and wears a hat after heisenberg blows up the dea's office
criticisms could arise from the fact that it's identical to v for vendetta but whatever
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Re: BREAKING BAD!!!!!

Post by pkay » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:24 pm

They say Heisenberg was a red Herring to distract from Hank

Thus why tuco brothers came after him and shot him

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