JBoy wrote:
Mate what the fuck are you about really, not to boast but i was in the army for five years and without getting into it ive seen what a 5.56 round can do to people and i confirm it does kill. Ive also seen british body armour and helmets take AK rounds so i dont know where youre getting your facts and information from lol.
Then you're aware a 5.56 is nothing on par with a 9mm.
Both 9mm and 5.56 which an m16 uses can kill you with one shot, both pretty weak rounds though and thats why theyre used, mainly to incappacitate rather than kill.
is false
i'd gather 70% of the insurgents killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were killed with a 5.56 shot from an m16.
My facts come from my time spent in afghanistan
Yeah or 7.62, doesnt matter what round is used if it hits you more than once or in a vital part of your body then youre going die arent you lol. The whole reason of using rifles is because of the stopping power they have, a 9mm round loses velocity after a couple of hundred yards, i mean you try hitting someone with a pistol at more than thirty. Lets not go waaaaaayyy off topic but ive been to afghanistan aswell and i was in the infantry, cant get much more real than that.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:05 pm
by autobot
What we need is a decent period of typical bad english weather, noones going out to loot when its pissing down and freezing cold.
Everyone seemed really on edge today, going home from work was a very somber experience.
joeki wrote:Fair enough Pkay, I see your point. Indeed, it's not an uncommon policing weapon. Even here in Belgium police force in Brussels around NATO etc. is equipped with mp5's. It sure as hell isn't a P-90 or steyr AUG. And It would occur natural that policing forces wouldn't use it in a fully automatic mode (It could be that police around the world, with the exception of special forces (as I said, the SAS) just aren't allowed to use fully automatic weapons...not sure about that). Still, it is a lethal weapon.
As to him being the target of the operation, rather then an unfortunate "victim" of it. Could be, doesn't have to change the situation and conclusion I draw here very much though...is there anyone who could shed some light on that question?
i know around here when we have gang violence (not comparing marks situation to gang violence) but when police fear of retaliation they often times look for a reason to arrest the person they think are going to cause trouble just to give them some cooling off period, get the family brought in, etc.
Perhaps it was a similar situation gone completely fucked
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:08 pm
by wub
autobot wrote:What we need is a decent period of typical bad english weather, noones going out to loot when its pissing down and freezing cold.
Everyone seemed really on edge today, going home from work was a very somber experience.
Yeah, the balmy evening isn't really helping matters much tbh
Let me team go home just before 4pm so they could get home safely in plenty of times/reserve a good spot at the window of their nearest JD Sports.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:09 pm
by Mr Hyde
autobot wrote:What we need is a decent period of typical bad english weather, noones going out to loot when its pissing down and freezing cold.
Everyone seemed really on edge today, going home from work was a very somber experience.
I don't know why they dont use the water cannons but if they don't want to hurt people- just set to 'spray', people will run away or go home a lot quicker if they're soaking wet!
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:10 pm
by DRTY
I'd guess they don't want to risk harming anyone because it'll just provoke them maybe. Bit of a shit situation really. Can't leave it but can't really retaliate.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:11 pm
by wub
Why do they always say water cannon, and not water cannons?
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:12 pm
by pkay
wub wrote:Why do they always say water cannon, and not water cannons?
maybe its like santa clause even though theres one at every mall
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:13 pm
by vermilion
plural of cannon is cannon
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:13 pm
by DRTY
wub wrote:Why do they always say water cannon, and not water cannons?
maybe they only got 1
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:15 pm
by wub
vermilion wrote:plural of cannon is cannon
Thank you.
Although I believe Pirates Of The Caribbean may have been lying to me all these years.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:15 pm
by Mr Hyde
or one of those helecopter water drops like they do on forest fires, a load of stinking pond water right on top of a rioting crowd, they'd soon go home
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:16 pm
by badger
vermilion wrote:plural of cannon is cannon
it is in the uk but most of the world say cannons. it's a bit of an archaism really
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:18 pm
by pkay
wub wrote:
vermilion wrote:plural of cannon is cannon
Thank you.
Although I believe Pirates Of The Caribbean may have been lying to me all these years.
Jack Sparrow may not be the best vocab instructor.
Re: UK riots
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:21 pm
by Mr Hyde
Sociologists said the devastation across the capital was the direct result of either social exclusion and government cutbacks or some young, inner-city pricks finding a flimsy excuse to set fire to Carpetright.
As the city's often neglected underclass of dicks, twats and fuckers, let out a desperate cry of opportunist theft, Waterstones in Clapham was only spared after staff hurriedly removed the Stars of the Jeremy Kyle Show Pop-Up Book from the window.
Dr Tom Logan said: "I'm a sociologist, which means three things - I have an appalling education, I have very little money and most of the time I am unbelievably bored.
"And yet I have only a fairly small inclination to set fire to some shops while refreshing my tracksuit collection.
"You see, some people are just dicks, but sometimes even dicks like an excuse."
Rioter Martin Bishop said: "I'm not entirely sure who is to blame for me wanting to steal things and then set fire to the building where those things used to be.
"But it is nice to have the flimsy excuse. It makes me feel more mature."
Meanwhile, as former England cricket captain Alec Stewart began assembling a posse of vigilante test heroes, seismologists reported a sudden lurch to the right as people who own tagines found themselves calling for the immediate deployment of the Parachute Regiment and a couple of RAF Tornadoes.
Julian Cook, a planning consultant from Finsbury Park, said: "As long as it doesn't get too 'Bloody Sunday' I think it could teach them a valuable lesson about property rights and the rule of law."
But Dr Logan stressed that long after the fires had been extinguished debate would continue to rage over what turned these dicks into the fuckers they are.
He added: "I suspect it'll be easier if we all just agree to blame Carpetright."
