What does electronic music need more/less of in 2013?

[Phigure]

yes more wolf dick pls

[hifi]

more drake/boi 1da

[wolf89]

no not drake

[fractal]

smoking venues tbh.

the game changed when we couldn't smoke inside the club/rave anymore

[SCope13]

303s anyone?

[fractal]

you don't think we've had our fill at this point? rolland can take a fucking break for a couple of decades

[ezza]

it has but still deffo more 303, just less of the other shit

imo 303s and drums made of things hitting each other would be the way to go

and push it up to maybe 135

[rorz9992]

More 140 jungle
Less Burial rip-offs and 808 house

Also, more people experimenting with hardware. Expensive but I think it could allow for some more creativity. Software is great but so many producers rely on the same presets and VSTs

what is 808 house?

blanket term I use to describe the lazy UK house / 'bass music' sound that is popular atm. Typically features heavy use of the 808 kick and cowbell and looped vocal snippets

basically french fries then

Wasn't specifically referring to French Fries but yeah his stuff and other stuff like that. Although I'm sure I'm guilty of owning a few tunes like that

[Genevieve]

LESS FLYLO RIPOFFS OMFG!1111. I've checked out heaps of music lately, man. And why are there so many FlyLo clones? Put those drums back on the grid, they don't sound 'loose', they sound bad and kill the energy. Going 'off the grid' is done to allow more freedom in creating groove and placing drumhits. If it's just done for the sake of it, sell all your music gear and put Ableton in the recycle bin. Write a shitty music blog instead, ugh.

[Liam92]

French Fries is fun as fuck doe

Yeah, I love French Fries:

[incnic]

yeh is can be fun
there are just a few h808ters from the house sub forum that pick on him for being derivative club music which is teh piont ofg derviuatiove club msuic

[Phigure]

yeah i dont really think he's trying to be anything more than that, he does what he does pretty well

i think he's a bit of a tnuc though for that blatant cactus rip off

[mIrReN]

people who do and create whatever the fuck they want/feel, would be awesome

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

MORE OF DEM FRENCH FRIES YOU GET ME

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

LESS FLYLO RIPOFFS OMFG!1111. I've checked out heaps of music lately, man. And why are there so many FlyLo clones? Put those drums back on the grid, they don't sound 'loose', they sound bad and kill the energy. Going 'off the grid' is done to allow more freedom in creating groove and placing drumhits. If it's just done for the sake of it, sell all your music gear and put Ableton in the recycle bin. Write a shitty music blog instead, ugh.

tbh. you just sound butt hurt for some reason.

[hifi]

bring 2004/nelly alt rnb back

[Genevieve]

LESS FLYLO RIPOFFS OMFG!1111. I've checked out heaps of music lately, man. And why are there so many FlyLo clones? Put those drums back on the grid, they don't sound 'loose', they sound bad and kill the energy. Going 'off the grid' is done to allow more freedom in creating groove and placing drumhits. If it's just done for the sake of it, sell all your music gear and put Ableton in the recycle bin. Write a shitty music blog instead, ugh.

tbh. you just sound butt hurt for some reason.

Nah, FlyLo clones are really bad

[hifi]

yea those flylo ripoffs were lame but that was like 2009-11. now it's samiyam rip offs that are definitely prevalent in the " soundcloud beatscene"

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

Its annoying cos thats basically what im working on lol

[Genevieve]

If you have off beat drums cuz they's sound good, cool.

If you're doing it for the sake of it and turn it into a 'LUK HOW LOOSE MAH DRUMS R' jerk-off, then yeah bad.

Sometimes a certain original aesthetic becomes popular and then copycats isolate that original aesthetic, turn it into the point of the music ITSELF and then I think "cool man, you have some purty loose drums here, but where's the tune?'. This also happened post-Burial where suddenly EVERYONE wanted to have a 'Burial shuffle'. Burial's drums sound good cuz they're good, they just happen to be shuffly. 'Outshuffling' Burial won't make your drums sound better, just shuffly. And I've heard some drumprogramming where the whole impact was lost because of the ubershuffle. It sounded so slow

Cloning isn't bad, ripping-off or trying to incorporate an aesthetic into your choons is all good. But when it turns into fetishizing that aesthetic, it's not fun to listen to me anymore. It's like listening some super technical guitar shredder or whiteboy fusion jazz.