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I thought enter the void and irreversible were two of the best films in the last 20 years. I get how you could get confused by enter the void with its changing protagonists etc or just fall out of it, but there's nothing about irreversible that would make me think random or improvised. Its calculated and thoroughly constructed.

They both have things in common with this brilliant film . .
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101829/

hubb wrote:.. there's nothing about irreversible that would make me think random or improvised. Its calculated and thoroughly constructed.

If the scenes were in chronological order would you still say 'thoroughly constructed'?

I'm just asking. I haven't seen the film in about seven years but I don't remember it being that special other than the (apparent) realism of that scene.
An interesting concept none-the-less but I think cloquet had I right when he said "never really goes anywhere and doesn't quite hold everything together".

Also, one of the best films in the past twenty years?!
Do I need to re-watch it...

sightseers

very goooooooood

deadly habit wrote:

Dutchstep wrote:
I cried.

great film. the directors other work is awesome as well.

Accidentally watched this on a comedown with my lady a few months ago. I'd seen it before and we'd really been planning to watch This Is England, but my DVD was missing so we just picked another Shane Meadows.

Wonderful movie, but NOT RECOMMENDED ON A COMEDOWN

Leviathan

1989 rip off of monster films like The Thing/Alien, starring Robocop, the black guy from Ghostbusters and the burglar from Home Alone that isn't Joe Pesci. Whole thing is available on YouTube if you fancy a laugh at possibly the best rip off movie every made

wub wrote:starring Robocop, the black guy from Ghostbusters and the burglar from Home Alone that isn't Joe Pesci

that sounds like the best line up of all time.

im super scared of underwater monsters and shit, will i like this?

jayladders wrote:

wub wrote:starring Robocop, the black guy from Ghostbusters and the burglar from Home Alone that isn't Joe Pesci

that sounds like the best line up of all time.

im super scared of underwater monsters and shit, will i like this?

The 18 certificate would be unwarranted in this day and age, let's put it like that.

haha alright, may give this a watch later. i have a thing about watching bad films cos theyre funny, my perfect example:



mad max/fallout-esque post apocolyptic movie about some guy who wants revenge for his 'brother' that was killed (the main actors plays both the main character and the brother he wants to avenge). its fucking hilarious, i used to watch it with my friends when we all used to smoke.

trailer:

Fair enough, in that case I also recommend;


Hell Comes To Frogtown

Rowdy Roddy Piper plays the most virile man in the world, battling giant mutant frogs to rescue a group of fertile women who have been kidnapped in a post apocalyptic wasteland, whilst wearing an explosive codpiece.

no fucking way. looking this up immediately! nice one man

wub wrote:Fair enough, in that case I also recommend;


Hell Comes To Frogtown

Rowdy Roddy Piper plays the most virile man in the world, battling giant mutant frogs to rescue a group of fertile women who have been kidnapped in a post apocalyptic wasteland, whilst wearing an explosive codpiece.

On the Roddy Piper and slightly dodgy B-Movie-esque-stuff tip, John Carpenter's "They Live" is HIGHLY recommended.

didnt recognise my avatar then? haha, 'they live' is one of my fave films

jayladders wrote:didnt recognise my avatar then? haha, 'they live' is one of my fave films

I've managed to not notice that for MONTHS.

wub wrote:
Leviathan

1989 rip off of monster films like The Thing/Alien, starring Robocop, the black guy from Ghostbusters and the burglar from Home Alone that isn't Joe Pesci. Whole thing is available on YouTube if you fancy a laugh at possibly the best rip off movie every made

that cover looks sick.

Dark Cystal

The Hitcher (Original)

On an 80's film binge at the mo'

jayladders wrote:didnt recognise my avatar then?

yeah this is only just making sense to me now.

hubb wrote:I thought enter the void and irreversible were two of the best films in the last 20 years. I get how you could get confused by enter the void with its changing protagonists etc or just fall out of it, but there's nothing about irreversible that would make me think random or improvised. Its calculated and thoroughly constructed.

They both have things in common with this brilliant film . .
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101829/

I wasn't confused by any of it; the plot was just incredibly thin. Enter The Void had a threadbare plot & 3 hours or so of waving a camera around with stunning visuals. The plot in his films feels like a rickety framework.

From the trivia section on IMDB for Irreversible - "Director Gaspar Noé only had a three-page draft before the movie was shot, so all of the dialogue was improvised. "

I'm guessing hubb meant ' I get how ONE could get confused...'

too many quotable's.

Yeah wasn't trying to condescend at all. I see Noe as an artistic talent equal to any of the great masters in art. Thats the level of apprecition I have with at least these two of his films.

Anyway, as I see it a plot (by itself) is a device that has a foot in literature more than it has in film. So thats no 'excuse'.
The story is simple in irreversible, no doubt. But it manages to get you to want or even appreciate this completely hopeless violent scenario that you've just had a hard time being forced through, by turning that very expression upside down and succesfully putting you in between this amazing couple of Cassel and Beluccis' relationship and it seems as genuine as love portrayed in ANY film imo. They are married in real life btw.
Its a masterstroke to have the audience go through the unacceptable violence and then warrant that violent nature through a portrait of love.
Definitely watch it again Lazlo.