TUNA! LIVES FOREVER

[nowaysj]

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

hope thats pg-13
thats the only gi i can think of

[SunkLo]

Yeah um... nowaysj? About that plugin... Might take a bit longer than expected. Something came... up.

[titchbit]

Yeah um... nowaysj? About that plugin... Might take a bit longer than expected. Something came... up.

[nowaysj]

You know, she even duck faces, and it is all good. That gif, fucking, absolutely short circuits any of my higher brain function. I'm reduced to, like, a fucking horny alligator. That gif is definitely on the list of the internet's top ten achievements.

It is like:

1. Direct citizen to citizen contact across national and linguistic barriers outside of regulated media channels, ending any possibility of war, and thus circumventing the need for powerful national militaries and the UN, yet another remote and totalitarian power structure.

2. That gif.

3. Cats.

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[SunkLo]

It's not even the duck face, there's more upper lip curl. That my friends, is the rudegyal face.

[nowaysj]

Oh. Critical distinction. I feel you. Like she might break it off, add it to her collection.

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Fucking I am sitting on some fire for this week. By the grace of god I will land this thing. I'm about to go into arrangement (yes I'm working backwards to a large extent, and I'm scared!), this is where I usually cheese it up. Pray for me.

[m8son666]

Only remembered about this this morning, just spent a solid six hours on ableton hopefully will be ready for tomorow

[nowaysj]

[m8son666]

My housemate just came to speak to me and i could barely form a sentence i am a broken man

[SunkLo]

Guessing this is referencing the gif posted above?

[nowaysj]

perhaps. I beg I could find a better. More a solid, powerful, centralized motion - a single massive thrust.

[SunkLo]

My Tuna submission for the week:

[+] Spoiler

Nice lil knob I rendered in Max. Still just feeling my way through the dark. Spent way longer on the material and lighting than actually modelling the knob. Once I'm a badman at modelling and Vray though... Gonna be some sexy UIs being made.

[nowaysj]

Yeah, nice one. Do your old uncle nwj a favor though - Usability/clarity/simplicity/functionality FIRST and FOREMOST. Good design is invisible.

Hey, what is your favorite UI out there?

[nowaysj]

You'd shit a brick if I showed you my fav. Seriously, a vein would pop on your temple.

[SunkLo]

Yeah I know, not tryna jazz things up too much with loads of eye candy. If anything, having some glitzy controls will make me more restrained in my designing, sort of like how having awesome sound design lets you make more minimal music.

Not sure about my favorite, that's a tough one. You mean design in general or music related? I've been trying to take in more UI design over the last little while and appreciate the finer nuances. I've been liking some flat designs. Seems a bit hard though. I think I'd find it easier to craft an aesthetic with a physically modelled UI. Polished rosewood and suede screams sex, radial gradients and rendered noise, not so much. I think making a 3d physical interface helps make things more tangible. Although you're then limited by physical constraints, can't just have abstract clouds and weird shit as UI elements. Certain types of plugins would benefit more from an authentically digital interface, but for the angle I'm going with this compressor, a boutique vintage hardware type theme fits best I think. Uhh, despite all the people doing vintage hardware. Maybe not quite vintage but something with equivalent flavour. I want it to be like a rack unit you'd find in Hans Zimmer's house. (Google if you haven't seen pictures)

[nowaysj]

I have. I'm heartened when you mention flatness. I do like rendered 3d ui's. But I like them as flat as possible.

This my fav:



Fucking love this ui. This is my, like, get it done synth. When I know what I want, it's like whamo in here. Just so easy to work with. Everything is so clear. It is slightly big, but just a little. Those knobs are perfect imo. They're rendered, but flat. They read perfectly. They read when I'm far away from my screen. I just love this ui. Honestly, one of the reasons I like Massive so much. I know and use some other synths, but massive is so fast and easy, because of the UI. I like the contrast, the compartmentalization, the position of elements that matches a subtractive workflow. There are things that could be improved, but so much is right.

Can't stand the UI of Zebra, or any of his stuff I've looked at or used. I've never used Diva, maybe installed the demo. I think I installed it and it timed out before I had a chance to try it. But if I recall, it looks pretty dope. But it is not looks, it is how it works, the results you produce with it.

And freaking Dcam synths, fuck that is painful. Strobe and Cypher are pretty incredible sounding, but the ui... fuck, I can't stand it when devs miss the mark like that. Just pay someone to do a good job. No offense if the ui dude is reading by some strange alignment of google alerts.

There is actually so much bad ui design out there. I think a good ui should make you like the device. Like you just like it. From that, it should easily and quickly help you achieve your desired results.

Anyway, sorry for waffling. I'm avoiding this arrangement like a motherfucker. Just having so much trouble...

[SunkLo]

Eugh you were right. Can't stand Massive's interface. Nothing's worse than Absynth though. A lot of NI's UIs are terrible. Razor's simple enough, but Prism is pretty impenetrable. I like Zebra to a degree but the modules get mixed up for me a lot. Don't like things with matricies, it's unintuitive. You should be able to look at the UI and see the inherent structure of the device.

I like Fabfilter's UIs I suppose. Timeless is a good example, with the pop out filters and such. The design is pretty intuitive by looking at it. I also really love Softube's UIs on the realistic side of things. Some of Stillwell's plugs have that vibe I'm going for as well.

[nowaysj]

Eugh you were right. Can't stand Massive's interface. Nothing's worse than Absynth though. A lot of NI's UIs are terrible. Razor's simple enough, but Prism is pretty impenetrable. I like Zebra to a degree but the modules get mixed up for me a lot. Don't like things with matricies, it's unintuitive. You should be able to look at the UI and see the inherent structure of the device.

I like Fabfilter's UIs I suppose. Timeless is a good example, with the pop out filters and such. The design is pretty intuitive by looking at it. I also really love Softube's UIs on the realistic side of things. Some of Stillwell's plugs have that vibe I'm going for as well.

Yeah, a lot of ni's stuff is pretty bad. Like bad in a way that it is annoying to work with. ESPECIALLY the knobs, fucking make huge jumps.

Fab's stuff for me is hit or miss. Like I like C, L, Q (I suppose, but I like Equality Much better). But Timeless... fuck, don't like that. I don't like shit hiding itself, especially when the plug is so big. Dude that plug is big, all that could be clear, organized AND accessible at the same time. I think that hiding shit is gimmicky. Massive does this as well, essentially. All those pages on the right middle for osc, voicing, routing, and global. But what really guts Timeless for me, is that fucking horizontal bilateral symmetry. That is totally contrary to how we work with almost all of our knobed technology. This example is vertically oriented, but their left right knobs are arranged like this: 123 321. DUMB. Should be 123 123. You have to learn a separate map for the left and right side. Just no, dudes. Their idea of swishy hiding interfaces does have pluses, but I think they over do it, like into gimmick territory, and it does have downsides.

I like to see everything all at once, and everything I want to see, I want just the right amount of contrast so I can read the data, but it doesn't stress my eyes, and I want all the data organized in a meaningful way that furthers the function of the device.

I feel you on softube's and stillwell stuff. I really do like rendered ui's but, like when the knobs are on an oblique plane, and the dash indicating the position of the knob gets obscured through its rotation. Come on dude, that is not good design, that is candy over function. Thinking further, softtube really is good at that stuff.

One final thought, I think your feelings about massive's sound and ui are more influenced by its more notorious users, than its actual sound or functionality. But then I like va subtractive sounds.

Anyhow, I've wasted another 15 minutes on an incomprehensible and meaningless post.

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

massive is basically a copy of malström :3 for vst users

we should make that gif a sticky so we can finish atleast sth