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lolwutHarkat wrote:When I go to see Kryptic Minds, I want to hear "their sound" to some extent, but not just a list of their own productions. That's not a good set, that's a showcase of a producer. I can do a mix of their discography in my bedroom myself (save for the dubplates). A good DJ plays tunes from all across the map, a good proportion of which his audience won't have heard before, and makes it all fit into a consistent vibe. Your own tunes can certainly fit into such a set, but shouldn't take up 90% of it.
Edit: Edited to be more coherent.
I saw Youngsta live and he bored me to tears, like I literally just sat down with my phone for the last half hour of his set (which was made up entirely of deep, dark 'rollers' with the EXACT SAME RHYTHM). KM on the other hand had me up and moving the whole set.Harkat wrote:This is why Kode9, Youngsta, Dusk & Blackdown and Distance are brilliant DJs and Krpytic Minds aren't, even though they do have A-class technical mixing skills.
yeah man, i didnt start thinking im going to rip off samiyam i just wanted to make a floaty resampled pad after listening to return. Its turned into its own thing and dosnt sound much like anything (not sure if thats good or bad lol). I cant stand hearing a tune thats a blatant rip off. Its like everyone in production wants to be koan sound for example.Genevieve wrote:If you have off beat drums cuz they's sound good, cool.
If you're doing it for the sake of it and turn it into a 'LUK HOW LOOSE MAH DRUMS R' jerk-off, then yeah bad.
Sometimes a certain original aesthetic becomes popular and then copycats isolate that original aesthetic, turn it into the point of the music ITSELF and then I think "cool man, you have some purty loose drums here, but where's the tune?'. This also happened post-Burial where suddenly EVERYONE wanted to have a 'Burial shuffle'. Burial's drums sound good cuz they're good, they just happen to be shuffly. 'Outshuffling' Burial won't make your drums sound better, just shuffly. And I've heard some drumprogramming where the whole impact was lost because of the ubershuffle. It sounded so slow
Cloning isn't bad, ripping-off or trying to incorporate an aesthetic into your choons is all good. But when it turns into fetishizing that aesthetic, it's not fun to listen to me anymore. It's like listening some super technical guitar shredder or whiteboy fusion jazz.
not like cactus was the first tune to sound like that, objekt just looked back a bit....Phigure wrote:yeah i dont really think he's trying to be anything more than that, he does what he does pretty well
i think he's a bit of a tnuc though for that blatant cactus rip off
i can't think of any tunes that sound like cactus reallyfractal wrote:not like cactus was the first tune to sound like that, objekt just looked back a bit....Phigure wrote:yeah i dont really think he's trying to be anything more than that, he does what he does pretty well
i think he's a bit of a tnuc though for that blatant cactus rip off
exactly, cos that french fries one dont either. I can see that maybe yeah, he was influenced by it, but like a wobble bass isnt anything new and only allowed to be used by objekt lolchekov wrote:i can't think of any tunes that sound like cactus reallyfractal wrote:not like cactus was the first tune to sound like that, objekt just looked back a bit....Phigure wrote:yeah i dont really think he's trying to be anything more than that, he does what he does pretty well
i think he's a bit of a tnuc though for that blatant cactus rip off
I found them better than Mystiks when I saw them on the same night (Fabric at somepoint last year)Sinestepper wrote:also kryptic minds were sick when i saw them.
this. his tunes are so complex and layered. probs the most gifted producer out there atm. Hero worship is gay but applicable in this caseincnic wrote:erm i think u find it it the sole domain of okjetc
he is untochable as a makeer of raev music IMO
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