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The biggest thing about ADHD that I take issue with is that the whole neutrotransmitter imbalance thing is very speculative. There are no actual tests to see if someone doesn't have enough dopamine/norepinephrine, or has it in the wrong parts of the brain. This goes for most mental illnesses. I do believe that mental illnesses exist, but I think that our understanding/categorization/diagnosing of them is severely flawed because there are no legit tests for neurotransmitter imbalances.

The biggest test that doctors use is they prescribe a med and then if it works, then that means the patient had a mental illness. You give adderall to ANYONE (ADHD or not) and they will report back that they were more focused, had an easier time concentrating, etc. Then doctors think oh there ya go that means he had ADHD. They do the same thing with depression/bipolar/etc.

I also think that in more cases than not, stimulants are more harmful than helpful, even if the patient/doctor thinks they're helpful. You take adderall for a couple years and then whadduyaknow take away the adderall and now your "ADD" is 10x worse than it was before adderall.

yup. know plenty of people who've been on the ritz and its made them worse in the long run.

http://www.theritzlondon.com/ Im sure

Shum wrote:Wishing death upon certain elements of society. >>>

i wouldn't actually act on it lol, homeless people by where i live just bug me i guess, and i exaggerate from time to time, i'm not going to go postal on the bums. i know people have their own individual fucked up situations, i just don't want to look at it. but hey, the rent is cheap

i guess i thought this was the "post insensitive hateful shit and expect no repercussion" thread.

500 pages of ppl being #wolf89

hubb wrote:

yup. know plenty of people who've been on the ritz and its made them worse in the long run.

http://www.theritzlondon.com/ Im sure

dubunked wrote:The biggest thing about ADHD that I take issue with is that the whole neutrotransmitter imbalance thing is very speculative. There are no actual tests to see if someone doesn't have enough dopamine/norepinephrine, or has it in the wrong parts of the brain. This goes for most mental illnesses. I do believe that mental illnesses exist, but I think that our understanding/categorization/diagnosing of them is severely flawed because there are no legit tests for neurotransmitter imbalances.

The biggest test that doctors use is they prescribe a med and then if it works, then that means the patient had a mental illness. You give adderall to ANYONE (ADHD or not) and they will report back that they were more focused, had an easier time concentrating, etc. Then doctors think oh there ya go that means he had ADHD. They do the same thing with depression/bipolar/etc.

I also think that in more cases than not, stimulants are more harmful than helpful, even if the patient/doctor thinks they're helpful. You take adderall for a couple years and then whadduyaknow take away the adderall and now your "ADD" is 10x worse than it was before adderall.

Let's get real tho, if it wasn't for the rampant ADHD/mental illness denial in the world (which obv is party caused by the overdiagnosis), there would in all likelihood be more funding for it and more new treatments would arise.

There's so many breakthroughs in the treatment of mental health, but so little money to actually get something done.

dididub wrote:500 pages of ppl being #wolf89

Genevieve wrote:

dubunked wrote:The biggest thing about ADHD that I take issue with is that the whole neutrotransmitter imbalance thing is very speculative. There are no actual tests to see if someone doesn't have enough dopamine/norepinephrine, or has it in the wrong parts of the brain. This goes for most mental illnesses. I do believe that mental illnesses exist, but I think that our understanding/categorization/diagnosing of them is severely flawed because there are no legit tests for neurotransmitter imbalances.

The biggest test that doctors use is they prescribe a med and then if it works, then that means the patient had a mental illness. You give adderall to ANYONE (ADHD or not) and they will report back that they were more focused, had an easier time concentrating, etc. Then doctors think oh there ya go that means he had ADHD. They do the same thing with depression/bipolar/etc.

I also think that in more cases than not, stimulants are more harmful than helpful, even if the patient/doctor thinks they're helpful. You take adderall for a couple years and then whadduyaknow take away the adderall and now your "ADD" is 10x worse than it was before adderall.

Let's get real tho, if it wasn't for the rampant ADHD/mental illness denial in the world (which obv is party caused by the overdiagnosis), there would in all likelihood be more funding for it and more new treatments would arise.

There's so many breakthroughs in the treatment of mental health, but so little money to actually get something done.

Perhaps but I don't think diagnosis practices hinder funding for mental illness research anywhere near the amount that people who deny that the government can/should do things hinder it. Private enterprise is notoriously bad at getting shit like this done in a timely manner. It's up to the knuckle-draggers to let the government step up to the plate.

I mean, would you support govt-funded mental health research?

I'd support just about any mental health research tbh

dididub wrote:500 pages of ppl being #wolf89

loooooooooooooooooool

ehbrums1 wrote:I'd support just about any mental health research tbh

What if it involved using human clones who had certain parts of their brain changed so they were born and lived with schizophrenia, or other mental illness, so drugs could be tested on them?

^not even joking thats a brilliant idea for a film

brilliant idea for the advancement of pharmacology, but no, all these moral having wankers won't let it happen

^That's a good start although could be improved through the use of clones, also have only robots directly interacting with the test subjects so to reduce researcher distress. I have discussed this with one of my lecturers before lol

why use clones when u could just use immigrants imo

Cos with clones you could breed selective traits such as propensity to cancer or heart disease or summin, but yeah immigrants would probably do quite a good job

now that i think about it ur right about the clones. not only would they be good for researching shit, but u could just make a bunch of clones and have them do all the jobs and shit so we can kick it in the shade while they make us P. utopia unlocked.

exactly

SCope13 wrote:now that i think about it ur right about the clones. not only would they b good for researching shit, but u could just make a bunch of clones and have them do all the jobs and shit so we can kick it in the shade while they make us P. utopia unlocked.

Not feeding them then?