Timestretching in Logic Exp. 7?

[Steve AC23]

Ive finally made the move from Cubase SX1 to Logic Exp. 7 today.

I just wanted to know the best and easiest way to timestretch like in Cubase where you just drag to fit what you want and bang, it fixes itself.

Can anybody help? I beg.

[ether]

ok..which do you want,
the good news or the bad news first?
i'll asume the good news...

theres two types of time streaching in logic to my knoledge,
one is acessed by holding down the 'audio' tab in the top left hand corner of the arrange page which brings up a drop down menu.
on this menu theres a few timestreaching options: such as 'adjust region to locators' and 'adjust region length to nearest bar'

the second is acsessed by double clicking on the audio part in the arrange page. this opens another window, theres a drop down tab called 'factory' and an option called 'time and pitch machine'

the bad news....
in my experience both of these are total bollox! and infuriatingly useless.
it may just be me but i can never get them to work properly, literly logic wont even timestreach things using the first method if it doesnt feel like it!

there is somthing else called apple loops which ive not really delved into myself. but appears to work abit like recycle. i.e by analysing drum loops and picking out the transients its able to repitch things and alter bpm.
its only really usefull for drum beats in my experience which is what recycles particularly good for. so use that.

i never attempt time streaching in logic. i generally find cubase to have far superior audio editing tools to any other, i have to use protools alot and i find cubase to be simpler and more effective. logics great in many applications but timestreaching it aint.

hope this is of some use to you.

e.

ps: logic is dope though you'll find the midi sounds vastly better than anything else out there.

[Steve AC23]

Thanks heaps for that man.

I thought it worked a treat...

But your right, it doesn't the best for time stretching. fuck.

I might bounce stuff out of Cubase then load into Logic.

Sounds like a lot of effort though. grr

[metalboxproducts]

Thanks heaps for that man.

I thought it worked a treat...

But your right, it doesn't the best for time stretching. fuck.

I might bounce stuff out of Cubase then load into Logic.

Sounds like a lot of effort though. grr

There'sa big article about this subject in this months sound on sound. It tells you all you need to know. Good luck..

[metalboxproducts]

You can buy the articlse for 0.99p.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov06/a ... h_1106.htm

[subframe]

Logic's timestretching is incredibly good. The algorithms are second only to my Emu Ultra, IMO.

Timestretching in Arrange is as fast as can be; the audio editor's Time and Pitch machine takes a little getting used to.

If those articles linked above don't help, I can give some tips, but I think it's best to learn this on your own, it pays off nicely.

[subframe]

Oh yeah, and don't forget the other time-based audio processing you can do: quantize audio, etc. Harder to use, but with the right material can do some cool stuff.

[shonky]

Really depends what you want to timestretch I guess. I've had pretty good results, and I'm not certain about this but I think generally timestretch only really sounds ok on a +/-10% ratio. Don't really notice any great loss to quality if it's just a small amount (say from 130 to 143 bpm). If you're using it for drums, I'd try recycle or something along those lines. You could always do it in Soundforge or an external audio editor to get them into time beforehand.

Mind you, I'm using 5.5, so things may have changed