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Just wondering, what sort of after effects are you adding to your basses, synths etc.
Such as reverb, delay and so on...
And how much eq and compression do you put onto them?
At the moment in not seeing much difference in my sound by compressing or adding eq.
I've been fiddling with the knobs for a while and everything's linked up appropriately

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But wouldn't that take time?
Plus on reason if you export a sample and then re import sometimes the sample doesn't sync right as it can be shorter on higher tones when I want to keep the length of the sound note the same.
I'm confusing myself here :L

Dr-Zitbag wrote:But wouldn't that take time?

er, producing anything worthwhile usually does...

Haha writing a decent beat would probably take too much time, I'm gonna settle for shit mixes and tunes for now.

I'm guessing you're fairly new to producing? if so you'll find yourself spending more and more time on each new track. You'll keep picking up new things that you can use to better the different elements that take time.

You'll often find producers write in one program before switching over to another, maybe using hardware, spend months on a tune before they feel it's nearly there. Once it's done they might get it mastered by someone else long before it gets to things like test pressings.

A lot of work and time goes into music because it shows, nobody wants to buy a tune that sounds like it's been made in an afternoon when the producer was a little worse for wear.

Lowpass wrote:Haha writing a decent beat would probably take too much time, I'm gonna settle for shit mixes and tunes for now.

I'm guessing you're fairly new to producing? if so you'll find yourself spending more and more time on each new track. You'll keep picking up new things that you can use to better the different elements that take time.

You'll often find producers write in one program before switching over to another, maybe using hardware, spend months on a tune before they feel it's nearly there. Once it's done they might get it mastered by someone else long before it gets to things like test pressings.

A lot of work and time goes into music because it shows, nobody wants to buy a tune that sounds like it's been made in an afternoon when the producer was a little worse for wear.

I reckon a lot of stuff that is good does not sound that well produced. Ideas over production (generally) is the go I think. Often a great track does not sound that technically brilliant, and a technically brilliant track can be dull.

er, producing anything worthwhile usually does...

I know it takes time to produce something good.
I don't expect to be actually making slightly average tunes for like a few months cause I know to make something really banging you're gonna have to have slaved over your chosen daw/daws for at least a year or so right?
I just think as reason already has eq and compression built in that i could route my syths into those by flipping it and adding it this way but it doesn't seem to have much effect on the sound atall?
Maybe I'm just doing it wrong but I just want to make the sound seem rougher and altogether more filling than it is already.
I've layered together few malstroms using a combinator and added reverb and a little unison to each of the malstroms but it still seems weak.

Lowpass wrote: You'll often find producers write in one program before switching over to another, maybe using hardware, spend months on a tune before they feel it's nearly there. Once it's done they might get it mastered by someone else long before it gets to things like test pressings.

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This is the way I go, I use a completly different prog for sequencing and use the effects in there, I'm shit at mastering so I get someone to do that for me, Keeps them in a job too

Lowpass wrote:A lot of work and time goes into music because it shows, nobody wants to buy a tune that sounds like it's been made in an afternoon when the producer was a little worse for wear.

The best shit I've done is stuff that required the least amount of time. Where I had a good idea and the song basically writes itself from there. Same when I did black metal some years ago on guitar. Different instrument, same approach and I'd say plenty of good tunes sound like they were produced in one afternoon (Pretty simple tune, with not so much work put in there, but beats the shit otu of a lot of intricately produced things

I was also wondering about something similar to this. when you re-sample your bass sounds do you already have them exactly as you want them? (i.e. are they in the right arrangement/quantised/eq-ed?) what level do you bounce them at?
also, what if you want to go back and change something? surely bouncing them to audio makes this impossible and if you do want to change anything, you've just wasted a huge amount of time for nothing...

BobbyM wrote:I was also wondering about something similar to this. when you re-sample your bass sounds do you already have them exactly as you want them? (i.e. are they in the right arrangement/quantised/eq-ed?) what level do you bounce them at?
also, what if you want to go back and change something? surely bouncing them to audio makes this impossible and if you do want to change anything, you've just wasted a huge amount of time for nothing...

if it doesnt work you make it work

hip hop guys deal solely in audio and get by, surely dubsteppers can use a combination and do it no?
you can move and slice the audio around, thats kind of the point, to destroy it in a sense
and its not like you are actually wasting anything, keep a copy of the automation or whatever so you can go back

usually if people start resampling its because they got to the point where automation wasn't enough to get the job done or they like working with audio better

if neither of those ring true forget about it for now

Dr-Zitbag wrote:But wouldn't that take time?
Plus on reason if you export a sample and then re import sometimes the sample doesn't sync right as it can be shorter on higher tones when I want to keep the length of the sound note the same.
I'm confusing myself here :L

Usually in Reason I would resample and then edit it in Sound Fordge then drop it back into a sampler rather than just using a whole phrase in a Rex or whatever. But yeah it takes a long ass time in Reason. I got less lazy when I switched to Ableton purely for the fact it is a piece of piss to resample in Live.

saturation

yeaaa im sick of these virtual tape saturation plugs after investing all of 20$ on 3 tape machines

to op, scream distortion units use more than 1 adding little amounts of distortion on each in different parameters, reason will let you wire together as many as you like

hurlingdervish wrote: usually if people start resampling its because they got to the point where automation wasn't enough to get the job done or they like working with audio better

if neither of those ring true forget about it for now

yep. if u cant think of a good reason to resample then its probably a sign that u dont need to resample

Send effects are key. Driven filters and bit crushers as a send bring out the mids for mad rapeage.

nowaysj wrote:

Dr-Zitbag wrote:I know to make something really banging you're gonna have to have slaved over your chosen daw/daws for at least a year or so right?

You will be luck if you make an average toon after 10 years slaving. Enjoy yourself.

truth hehe

i like bit reduction on my bass...

I like a lot of things on my bass acctually, my instrument racks usually go from here to calcutta.